Cabin crew ignoring electrical devices

 
Old Nov 19, 12, 8:29 pm
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Cabin crew ignoring electrical devices

Just got off AA2144 SXM-MIA. Throughout the flight, from boarding passengers until taxiing in to the gate, an elderly man in seat 2B was reading a book on a 10" tablet. It was in plain sight from where I was sitting in 2F, and was switched on the whole time. After the cabin door had closed and the "please turn off all electrical devices" announcement made, cabin crew walked past at least three times and said nothing. On approach, with it being dark outside and the cabin lights dimmed, the tablet's backlight was bright enough to light up the underside of the overhead bin above his head. After the descent "please turn off all electrical devices", one of the cabin crew walked past, looked straight at the tablet, and said nothing.

I've never seen cabin crew do this before. I can't imagine this is standard American Airlines policy. Has anyone seen this before?
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Old Nov 19, 12, 8:40 pm
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Cabin crew ignoring electrical devices

Bout time someone used some common sense and ignored those stupid warnings
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Old Nov 19, 12, 8:49 pm
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My feeling is, if these devices were so dangerous then they wouldn't allow them on the planes. I think it's a silly rule.
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Old Nov 19, 12, 9:32 pm
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Rules are made for a reason.. If you can't change it then follow it. I really don't see how hard it is to turn off an electronic device for a short period of time.
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Old Nov 19, 12, 9:35 pm
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Rules are made for a reason.. If you can't change it then follow it. I really don't see how hard it is to turn off an electronic device for a short period of time.
I guess some people are willing to challenge silly rules. Good for the guy with the tablet!
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Old Nov 19, 12, 9:41 pm
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As this was specific to American Airlines, please follow it as it moves to the AA forum. Ocn Vw 1K, Moderator, TravelBuzz.
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Old Nov 19, 12, 9:44 pm
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Originally Posted by johnsmith View Post
Bout time someone used some common sense and ignored those stupid warnings
Precisely. While I wouldn't do this because the FA could get in trouble (and fined) due to my actions, it doesn't concern me in the least from a safety standpoint. Consideration for the FA is my only reason for adhering.

Rules are made for a reason, indeed

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Old Nov 19, 12, 9:49 pm
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The pilots will soon have tablets in to cockpit as part of the electronic flight bag project. Why are tablets safe in the cockpit below 10k feet and not in the cabin?
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Old Nov 19, 12, 9:55 pm
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Originally Posted by johnsmith View Post
Bout time someone used some common sense and ignored those stupid warnings
Hear, hear.

It's time to either provide peer-reviewed, reproducible evidence for this rule or get rid of it. I am very confident no peer-reviewed, reproducible evidence will appear.
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Old Nov 19, 12, 11:16 pm
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And how many people like me just put these on airplane mode so that it's not really turned off? My laptop is on standby mode the whole time too, not turned off.

Oh, and sure, we should all follow rules, as they must have a reason? Like TSA saying one can't take through a full one liter bottle of water, but one can take a liter of water broken down into 10 100ml containers all in a ziplock baggie. Yes, rules for a reason!
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I've always thought that the issue wasn't about the devices interfering with the cockpit electronics, instead that it distracted the user from paying attention to the safety briefing, etc.
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Old Nov 20, 12, 3:27 am
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I've always thought that the issue wasn't about the devices interfering with the cockpit electronics, instead that it distracted the user from paying attention to the safety briefing, etc.
There's a safety briefing?
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Old Nov 20, 12, 5:36 am
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Originally Posted by Kaneohe0850 View Post
I've always thought that the issue wasn't about the devices interfering with the cockpit electronics, instead that it distracted the user from paying attention to the safety briefing, etc.
Incorrect. Paying attention to the safety briefing is not required. You can even sleep through it if you want.
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Old Nov 20, 12, 6:32 am
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The pilots will soon have tablets in to cockpit as part of the electronic flight bag project. Why are tablets safe in the cockpit below 10k feet and not in the cabin?

Because in the cockpit there would be a maximum of 2-3 such devices operating. By contrast, if tablets were allowed in the passenger cabin, there could be 150+ such devices operating simultaneously on a typical narrowbody aircraft. Maybe 250+ on a widebody. Maybe 450+ on an A380. That quantity of devices could cause substantial RF interference, possibly even if all of them were in Airplane Mode (not sure...I'm not a specialist).

Remember how Steve Jobs's demo crashed at the Apple keynote a while back? It was from having 500 WiFi devices operating in a single room. Try it in an airplane with thousands of moving parts, cables, computer-driven hydraulics, etc....
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Old Nov 20, 12, 7:12 am
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Seems to me that everyone (including FA's) are increasingly ignoring the "no electronics" policy during take-off and landing. Passengers are getting very brazen in their insistance (overt or covert) of continuing to use their SmartPhones, etc......and FA's seem to have realized they have lost the battle in insisting everything gets turned off. I was on a UA flight in the last 2 months where one of the FA's was texting or sending an e-mail during the take-off roll. She noticed that I was watching her and she then hid her smartphone from view......but she didn't turn it off. Even though I don't agree with the policy, I do respect the rules and turn everything off per the policy.

IMHO, its time for the FAA to review the rules on electronics again and agree to something that is more practical.
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