WSJ recommends booking away from AA
Sep 20, 2012, 10:23 am
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Oh, the irony. One of the reason for the pilot strife is because AA pilots don't want to work as many hours as Herb has their pilots work!
Sep 20, 2012, 10:35 am
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I'm based out of ORD, so there are plenty of options on other carriers (DL, UA, and AF have directs to CDG)... good to know I have a shot getting there if I'm part of the 5%.
Sep 20, 2012, 11:40 am
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That's good to know... I had a coworker who booked his wife on a Delta award ticket. When that flight cancelled, the Delta GA refused to put her on a UA flight with availability leaving that day, saying that UA wouldn't accept the award ticket, or something to that effect.
I'm based out of ORD, so there are plenty of options on other carriers (DL, UA, and AF have directs to CDG)... good to know I have a shot getting there if I'm part of the 5%.
I'm based out of ORD, so there are plenty of options on other carriers (DL, UA, and AF have directs to CDG)... good to know I have a shot getting there if I'm part of the 5%.
Sep 20, 2012, 12:16 pm
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Problem is that if you're on a vacation (or trying to reach somewhere for a crucial event), and the onward connection only has 1 flight a day with no reasonable alternatives on other airlines, you'll be really SOL.
Sep 20, 2012, 12:47 pm
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Another reason why considering travel insurance is a good idea.
Sep 20, 2012, 10:33 pm
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Several prominent travel gurus say it's too early to "book away" from American....
Sep 20, 2012, 10:48 pm
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In each instance, the airline went to court to force pilots to speed things up. Crandall said American might be forced to do the same thing this time.
"It is perfectly obvious that this is a job action by the pilots," Crandall said. "I think it's childish, it's self-defeating and it's harmful to the company and to other employees."
American is particularly vulnerable to long-term damage if passengers choose other carriers because it is already in bankruptcy and weak compared with bigger rivals United and Delta, he said.
"It is perfectly obvious that this is a job action by the pilots," Crandall said. "I think it's childish, it's self-defeating and it's harmful to the company and to other employees."
American is particularly vulnerable to long-term damage if passengers choose other carriers because it is already in bankruptcy and weak compared with bigger rivals United and Delta, he said.
Sep 20, 2012, 11:27 pm
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Are there any restrictions on publicizing what it is that they feel is unfair in order to gain sympathy and perhaps action from the general public? How about good old fashioned pickets? Visiting the morning news programs? Or at least trying that first before taking it to the next level and randomly inconveniencing thousands of innocent passengers?
Sep 20, 2012, 11:49 pm
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Its coverage is quite limited. TravelGuard (one of the biggest) reads:
So it will probably work if you're going on a cruise AND have scheduled 3.5+ hour connections, but not if you're trying to get in time for a wedding or just not losing some vacation time or your connections are such that a 2 hour delay would make you miss your connection.
IMHO travel insurance is mostly illusion of coverage and is overall a bad deal for the purchaser given the prices (note: medical evacuation insurance with few exclusions is another matter).
If, while on a Trip, the Insured misses a Trip departure resulting from cancellation or delay of 3 or more hours of all regularly scheduled airline flights due to Inclement Weather or Common Carrier caused delay, the Insurer will reimburse the Insured up to the Maximum Limit shown in the Schedule for:
1. additional transportation expenses incurred by the Insured to join the departed Trip;
2. prepaid, non-refundable Trip payments for the unused portion of the Trip.
The Common Carrier must certify the delay of the regularly scheduled airline flight.
Coverage is secondary if reimbursable by any other source
1. additional transportation expenses incurred by the Insured to join the departed Trip;
2. prepaid, non-refundable Trip payments for the unused portion of the Trip.
The Common Carrier must certify the delay of the regularly scheduled airline flight.
Coverage is secondary if reimbursable by any other source
IMHO travel insurance is mostly illusion of coverage and is overall a bad deal for the purchaser given the prices (note: medical evacuation insurance with few exclusions is another matter).
Sep 21, 2012, 3:36 am
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Sep 21, 2012, 3:42 am
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That's good to know... I had a coworker who booked his wife on a Delta award ticket. When that flight cancelled, the Delta GA refused to put her on a UA flight with availability leaving that day, saying that UA wouldn't accept the award ticket, or something to that effect.
Sep 21, 2012, 6:13 am
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This isn't the Delta forum but I can tell you Delta's contract of carriage doesn't require DL to reroute a passenger on the flights of another carrier, even on paid tickets, even when the delay/cancellation is Delta's fault.
(That said, DL has offered me a reroute on another carrier when traveling on an award, as recently as last month.)
(That said, DL has offered me a reroute on another carrier when traveling on an award, as recently as last month.)
Sep 21, 2012, 6:26 am
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I went to college with a guy who went into the USAF and later matriculated to American. He came from a conservative background and termed himself one. His words; "I never believed in unions but a year at American has changed my mind."
In a way you have answered your own question. They don't change at all. You just cant see things from their perspective because now it's YOU who are suffering some inconvenience.
I doubt very much that you look out for a third party over your own interests yet when pilots do so you take it personally.
Though pilots are loathe to inconvenience passengers they are not going to go out of their way to compensate for management's shortcomings anymore either.
Because they don't place your interests in front of their own you term them "robotic, petty, greedy, selfish, self-centered, little people". I think your rant is quite revealing about what kind of person you are.
Since you are unhappy riding airliners in order to do your job I happily suggest you change careers so that you no longer have to suffer.
In a way you have answered your own question. They don't change at all. You just cant see things from their perspective because now it's YOU who are suffering some inconvenience.
I doubt very much that you look out for a third party over your own interests yet when pilots do so you take it personally.
Though pilots are loathe to inconvenience passengers they are not going to go out of their way to compensate for management's shortcomings anymore either.
Because they don't place your interests in front of their own you term them "robotic, petty, greedy, selfish, self-centered, little people". I think your rant is quite revealing about what kind of person you are.
Since you are unhappy riding airliners in order to do your job I happily suggest you change careers so that you no longer have to suffer.
Fly safely.
Sep 21, 2012, 6:54 am
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Not necessarily true. The "price" of the ticket doesn't matter to the other airline as that's not what DL, for example, is reimbursed by AA. Rules 240 and 80 in AA's contract of carriage explain what happens during cancellation... It clearly states AAdvantage tickets are treated the same as a "paid" ticket. Now, AA may drag their feet on switching someone to another airline to save money, but that's a different situation.
Cheers.
Sep 21, 2012, 7:45 am
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My fiancée and I are leaving on our honeymoon October 5th from ORD-CDG on an AA award ticket.
I'm contemplating cancelling the AA leg and moving to UA... what are the odds this goes on a few weeks and would impact a transat?
I'm scared that in the event of a cancellation, rebooking on another airline is going to be tough or impossible on an award ticket...
I'm contemplating cancelling the AA leg and moving to UA... what are the odds this goes on a few weeks and would impact a transat?
I'm scared that in the event of a cancellation, rebooking on another airline is going to be tough or impossible on an award ticket...
ERQ