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Old May 21, 2012, 7:02 pm
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Originally Posted by mmjaysee
What did they offer you in terms of compensation?
An apology. Wasn't expecting any compensation. I had a complimentary EXP upgrade. I can deal with the exit seat. Being late is another story.... And "thank you for choosing AA...."


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Old May 22, 2012, 12:00 am
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Originally Posted by jcf27
An apology. Wasn't expecting any compensation. I had a complimentary EXP upgrade. I can deal with the exit seat. Being late is another story.... And "thank you for choosing AA...."
When they take away my upgrade due to an equipment swap, I at least feel entitled to ask the GA to help me end up in a row with an empty middle and a movable armrest.
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Old May 22, 2012, 2:33 pm
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On Flight 20, no problems or issues to report. Another smooth flight on a 762...
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Old May 22, 2012, 9:23 pm
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The spell is broken! ^

Complete trend:
  • on 11MAY AA12 (SFOJFK 0945 departure) went out as a tired 757.
  • on 12MAY AA12 (SFOJFK 0945 departure) went out as a tired 757.
  • on 13MAY AA16 (SFOJFK 1245 departure) went out as a 757 (unknown interior).
  • on 14MAY AA18 (SFOJFK 2235 departure) went out as a tired 757.
  • on 15MAY AA20 (SFOJFK 1500 departure) went out as a tired 757.
  • on 16MAY AA20 (SFOJFK 1500 departure) went out as a tired 757.
  • on 17MAY AA20 (SFOJFK 1500 departure) went out as a renovated (!) 757
  • on 18MAY no substitutions
  • on 19MAY no substitutions
  • on 20MAY no substitutions
  • on 21MAY no substitutions
  • on 22MAY no substitutions

The "tired" 757 is, of course, an ashtray-equipped Clinton-era, Bush Sr.-delivery 757 with the Eisenhower F seats (with multiple credits for the description )
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Old May 26, 2012, 3:07 am
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Originally Posted by hillrider
The spell is broken! ^

Complete trend:
  • on 11MAY AA12 (SFOJFK 0945 departure) went out as a tired 757.
  • on 12MAY AA12 (SFOJFK 0945 departure) went out as a tired 757.
  • on 13MAY AA16 (SFOJFK 1245 departure) went out as a 757 (unknown interior).
  • on 14MAY AA18 (SFOJFK 2235 departure) went out as a tired 757.
  • on 15MAY AA20 (SFOJFK 1500 departure) went out as a tired 757.
  • on 16MAY AA20 (SFOJFK 1500 departure) went out as a tired 757.
  • on 17MAY AA20 (SFOJFK 1500 departure) went out as a renovated (!) 757
  • on 18MAY no substitutions
  • on 19MAY no substitutions
  • on 20MAY no substitutions
  • on 21MAY no substitutions
  • on 22MAY no substitutions

The "tired" 757 is, of course, an ashtray-equipped Clinton-era, Bush Sr.-delivery 757 with the Eisenhower F seats (with multiple credits for the description )
I dont know what it is about me but short of a ex delay during a nor'easter in.winter, I have never had a delay or issue on a 762...and These transcons is.how I got exp and now keep Plat...
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Old May 28, 2012, 12:29 pm
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Originally Posted by hillrider
The spell is broken! ^

Complete trend:
  • on 11MAY AA12 (SFOJFK 0945 departure) went out as a tired 757.
  • on 12MAY AA12 (SFOJFK 0945 departure) went out as a tired 757.
  • on 13MAY AA16 (SFOJFK 1245 departure) went out as a 757 (unknown interior).
  • on 14MAY AA18 (SFOJFK 2235 departure) went out as a tired 757.
  • on 15MAY AA20 (SFOJFK 1500 departure) went out as a tired 757.
  • on 16MAY AA20 (SFOJFK 1500 departure) went out as a tired 757.
  • on 17MAY AA20 (SFOJFK 1500 departure) went out as a renovated (!) 757
  • on 18MAY no substitutions
  • on 19MAY no substitutions
  • on 20MAY no substitutions
  • on 21MAY no substitutions
  • on 22MAY no substitutions

The "tired" 757 is, of course, an ashtray-equipped Clinton-era, Bush Sr.-delivery 757 with the Eisenhower F seats (with multiple credits for the description )
You can add: 28May AA16 SFOJFK 12:45 departure going out as a 757. (Inbound was AA59 JFKSFO.)

Does anyone know if the Samsung tablets are available in F when these subs occur?
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Old Jun 2, 2012, 2:25 pm
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No substitution for flight 17 last night, but we did have a fun 2.5 hour mechanical delay and a 1:20 a.m. arrival.
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Old Jun 3, 2012, 5:34 am
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Honestly, I'm surprised you guys in LAX/NYC/SFO tolerate these aircraft. They happen to be the oldest fleet type in the AA fleet and it shows. I just flew on one to JFK the other day in F and was quite disappointed with the condition of the interior. The footrest on the floor was duck taped together, massage function was broken, and 1990s airphone was missing retraction cord and hastily mounted in holster.
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Old Jun 3, 2012, 6:50 am
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Some of us look forward to the being in the front two cabins on these old birds.

The business class seat has decent recline and I find that I can sleep better on these old school craddle seats better than the slant bed NGBC seats.

With 2 center aisle seats in Business, one has direct aisle access without someone climbing over you.

Service is usually pretty good, and the meals service--dinner especially, is pretty good if you can avoid the three cheese pasta.

I'd prefer a built in seat IFE, but the Samsung tablet they lend you is a fair substitute--although there is that delay for distribution and the annoying 1 hour before landing collection.

I've never saw a massage function a la United's seat, though.

Compared to flying transcon in a B757, 737 or other single aisle aircraft, this is much better.

And just as when I ride Amtrak, I test seat functions pre departure to see if I have a fully operable seat prior to push back. On one or two occassions I've had the seat repaired prior to push back.

Last edited by Globehopper; Jun 3, 2012 at 4:00 pm Reason: Minor typo
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Old Jun 3, 2012, 12:07 pm
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I don't see 3 class staying on these routes as the 762s are retired, if only because of the SAG contract shifting to only business class being required. That's why UA is going 2 class with all lie-flat on p.s.
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Old Jun 3, 2012, 2:55 pm
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Originally Posted by N1120A
I don't see 3 class staying on these routes as the 762s are retired, if only because of the SAG contract shifting to only business class being required. That's why UA is going 2 class with all lie-flat on p.s.
Once again, need I remind people that the SAG contract never required three-class F, so if the airlines had gone with two-class planes and called the front F then the studios could have used them. For the LAX flights the changes probably had A LOT more to do with changing employee travel policies at the major studios; I recall at least one who told employees that everyone's permitted travel class was being lowered one notch (could have been NBCU). They're the ones making the frequent trips and once nobody was allowed to fly F anymore they probably saw a big hit to the business.

Also, the entertainment industry's travel has nothing to do with equipment used on SFO routes.
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Old Jun 3, 2012, 4:08 pm
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Originally Posted by AAerSTL
Honestly, I'm surprised you guys in LAX/NYC/SFO tolerate these aircraft. They happen to be the oldest fleet type in the AA fleet and it shows. I just flew on one to JFK the other day in F and was quite disappointed with the condition of the interior. The footrest on the floor was duck taped together, massage function was broken, and 1990s airphone was missing retraction cord and hastily mounted in holster.
I certainly enjoy UA p.s. as well (which is also showing its age), but the fact that I can get complimentary upgrades on AA's routes helps a lot (the product is far superior to flying ordinary F across the country). YTD, I've done 20 JFK-SFO/LAX one-ways, two of which were on United. If I had chosen to fly UA for the other 18, I would be out of regionals and SWUs by now to have upgraded service.
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Old Jun 3, 2012, 10:46 pm
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JFK-LAX is dropping to 9 flights a day (from 10) and the earliest is now 8am, which misses a number of LAX connections in the AM making for a longer day. Why did AA do this? I was flying JFK-LAX-SBA and now the earliest they I can get there is 3pm - I need to look for other options.
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Old Jun 3, 2012, 11:30 pm
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Originally Posted by MikeTucson
JFK-LAX is dropping to 9 flights a day (from 10) and the earliest is now 8am, which misses a number of LAX connections in the AM making for a longer day. Why did AA do this? I was flying JFK-LAX-SBA and now the earliest they I can get there is 3pm - I need to look for other options.
What day is the frequency drop happening?

I looked ahead and didn't notice anything.
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Old Jun 4, 2012, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by MikeTucson
I need to look for other options.
Avis will probably be the best. If you're arriving around 10:30/11am on a weekday it can't take more than 90min in the car from LAX to Santa Barbara. And the PCH is so pretty...
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