Has oneworld Lounge Access Policy Recently Changed?
Mar 20, 2012, 6:25 pm
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Exactly correct. OW status had nothing to do with it; flying in 3-class transcon Z did.
I think that the OP was correctly denied access. I'm not saying he owes the contract agents at the FRA JAL lounge an apology, just that he did not have legitimate grounds to seek access.
Now, if the FRA AA AC had still been open, then he could have sought access legitimately as an AA international premium class passenger. This policy is internal to AA (nothing to do with OW) and says nothing about requiring an onward/departing flight on any airline.
I think that the OP was correctly denied access. I'm not saying he owes the contract agents at the FRA JAL lounge an apology, just that he did not have legitimate grounds to seek access.
Now, if the FRA AA AC had still been open, then he could have sought access legitimately as an AA international premium class passenger. This policy is internal to AA (nothing to do with OW) and says nothing about requiring an onward/departing flight on any airline.
Mar 20, 2012, 7:02 pm
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Mar 20, 2012, 7:21 pm
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Arrival lounge access is provided by certain airlines (typically to their own PAX only), however, it is not a OneWorld benefit.
Mar 20, 2012, 7:43 pm
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http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...hipLounges.jsp then scroll down for this
Arrivals Lounge
All First, Business and oneworld™ Emerald passengers flying American to London Heathrow are invited to enjoy the Arrivals Lounge amenities upon their arrival (all other passengers can pay a fee of $90 USD + VAT for access to the London Heathrow lounge upon arriving). To enter, simply show your boarding pass and photo ID at the front desk.
Hours: 6.00 a.m. - 2.00 p.m.
All First, Business and oneworld™ Emerald passengers flying American to London Heathrow are invited to enjoy the Arrivals Lounge amenities upon their arrival (all other passengers can pay a fee of $90 USD + VAT for access to the London Heathrow lounge upon arriving). To enter, simply show your boarding pass and photo ID at the front desk.
Hours: 6.00 a.m. - 2.00 p.m.
Mar 20, 2012, 7:43 pm
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AA offered Arrivals on an informal basis at FRA to arriving elites, as it was outside of security. It was always accessible to AC members, of course, because that's what membership provides for - an din nits instance, one did not even have to arrange for access in advance, as it was landside.
If the OP had been continuing the journey on a oneworld airline, the Sakura Lounge personnel would have been incorrect to deny access.
Though the FRA AC was nearly antediluvian
in furnishings and even the showers were unimpressive they were there; mostly, I miss the FRA AC staff!
If the OP had been continuing the journey on a oneworld airline, the Sakura Lounge personnel would have been incorrect to deny access.
Though the FRA AC was nearly antediluvian
in furnishings and even the showers were unimpressive they were there; mostly, I miss the FRA AC staff!
Mar 20, 2012, 8:18 pm
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With the exception of American Airlines
http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...hipLounges.jsp then scroll down for this
http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...hipLounges.jsp then scroll down for this
Mar 20, 2012, 8:38 pm
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Mar 20, 2012, 8:56 pm
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Mar 20, 2012, 9:10 pm
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Actually, the FRA JAL lounge is outside of security, but beyond Schengen passport control. FRA is one of those weird places where security is done at individual gates (or clusters of gates). But passport control is the main control point leading to the international gates.
So, you would proceed as follows:
1) baggage security questions (ICTS part I)
2) ticket counter
3) electronic boarding pass verification gates (confirming eligible flight departing Schengen zone)
4) Schengen exit immigration
5) sterile departures/arrivals concourse (OUTSIDE security)
6) visit lounges as desired
7) security checkpoint
8) gate screening (ICTS part II)
(That's why only one car of the light rail system going from T1 to T2 and back is available from any one side at a time. The other side operates on the opposite side of the Schengen zone. So, if you are arriving from outside Schengen in T1 and departing to a point outside Schengen from T2, you can connect without ever having to clear passport control! Pretty cool actually...a bit like the sterile arrivals train servicing the High E gates at MIA when the remote FIS facility is not operating. But without the ITI/TWOV benefit, of course.)
Last edited by ESpen36; Mar 20, 2012 at 9:15 pm