[award to Asia] "Try and call back tomorrow to see if seats have opened up."
Mar 18, 2012, 1:00 am
#16
Ambassador: Japan Airlines
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There are several posts reporting that an AA agent refused to book a JL domestic flight more than 6 months in advance of the flight, citing a Japanese government regulation. The agent subsequently admitted he or she was in error because the regulation does not apply to international itineraries that happen to include JL domestic flights. This has happened for both oneworld awards and all-partner awards.
Mar 18, 2012, 9:29 am
#17
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Join Date: Sep 2011
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In any case, you can sign up a BA FF membership and use BA award booking engine to search for the availability - this would be more reliable than use JL's own because JL's may make more awards available for its own members while what BA sees should match with what AA sees.
Despite BA and AA being partnered, my understanding was that my BA/Avios rewards card have THEIR own award seats reserved with CX/JL and my AA rewards have THEIR own seats reserved with CX/JL as their fees/programs differ and they are totally different Rewards programs despite being part of the same 'group.' Is this not the case?
So basically, if I find a reward seat under the BA EC website, can I call AAdvantage (different reward program) and book that same seat? Thanks much.
Mar 18, 2012, 10:52 am
#18
Ambassador: Japan Airlines
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Despite BA and AA being partnered, my understanding was that my BA/Avios rewards card have THEIR own award seats reserved with CX/JL and my AA rewards have THEIR own seats reserved with CX/JL as their fees/programs differ and they are totally different Rewards programs despite being part of the same 'group.' Is this not the case?
Mar 18, 2012, 12:42 pm
#19
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Thank you, I have a British Airways Exec Club account already, but pardon the noobie q...
Despite BA and AA being partnered, my understanding was that my BA/Avios rewards card have THEIR own award seats reserved with CX/JL and my AA rewards have THEIR own seats reserved with CX/JL as their fees/programs differ and they are totally different Rewards programs despite being part of the same 'group.' Is this not the case?
So basically, if I find a reward seat under the BA EC website, can I call AAdvantage (different reward program) and book that same seat? Thanks much.
Despite BA and AA being partnered, my understanding was that my BA/Avios rewards card have THEIR own award seats reserved with CX/JL and my AA rewards have THEIR own seats reserved with CX/JL as their fees/programs differ and they are totally different Rewards programs despite being part of the same 'group.' Is this not the case?
So basically, if I find a reward seat under the BA EC website, can I call AAdvantage (different reward program) and book that same seat? Thanks much.
The inventory of award seats available to the PARTNERS is identical, from the SAME pool. i.e. whatever BA has available to it from CX/JL, is the same, identical seats available to AA from CX/JL. There is no such "their own seat" concept as you wrongly guess. You can think of it as a pie that CX/JL offer up to their partners and every partner has equal access to the same pie. The opposite is true - i.e. AA offers a pie to all AA's partners who all have equal access to AA's pie.
Of course, how to redeem the seats would be based on the individual program rules of which you use to redeem. This has nothing to do with the inventory availability.
Mar 18, 2012, 2:19 pm
#20
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makes perfect sense, thank you!
Mar 19, 2012, 3:51 am
#21
Ambassador: Japan Airlines
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Mar 19, 2012, 9:37 am
#22
Join Date: Apr 2011
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There are several posts reporting that an AA agent refused to book a JL domestic flight more than 6 months in advance of the flight, citing a Japanese government regulation. The agent subsequently admitted he or she was in error because the regulation does not apply to international itineraries that happen to include JL domestic flights. This has happened for both oneworld awards and all-partner awards.