UA files for SFO-DCA, AA's response?
Feb 27, 2012, 8:20 pm
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UA files for SFO-DCA, AA's response?
United Airlines has filed for a single daily SFO-DCA frequency as a result of their parameter exemption. AA was also granted slots today, I believe.
My prediction?
AA pulls LAX-IAD (and close the IAD AC) and replaces it with an LAX-DCA 738 frequency.
My prediction?
AA pulls LAX-IAD (and close the IAD AC) and replaces it with an LAX-DCA 738 frequency.
Feb 27, 2012, 8:38 pm
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United Airlines has filed for a single daily SFO-DCA frequency as a result of their parameter exemption. AA was also granted slots today, I believe.
My prediction?
AA pulls LAX-IAD (and close the IAD AC) and replaces it with an LAX-DCA 738 frequency.
My prediction?
AA pulls LAX-IAD (and close the IAD AC) and replaces it with an LAX-DCA 738 frequency.
AA Will very likely apply for a single LAX-DCA-LAX beyond perimeter route and that will not come at the expense of the entire IAD operation.
Feb 27, 2012, 8:42 pm
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United Airlines has filed for a single daily SFO-DCA frequency as a result of their parameter exemption. AA was also granted slots today, I believe.
My prediction?
AA pulls LAX-IAD (and close the IAD AC) and replaces it with an LAX-DCA 738 frequency.
My prediction?
AA pulls LAX-IAD (and close the IAD AC) and replaces it with an LAX-DCA 738 frequency.
Chances are close to 100% AA will apply for LAXDCA, but it wont come at the expense of an LAXIAD flight nor the IAD AC. Are you being serious or doing this for laughs?
LAXDCA will nicely compliment LAXIAD. The real question is if AA just asks for one slot, or if it will ask for two daily LAXDCA flights instead. Or maybe AA might ask for AUSDCA, too.
Nobody was awarded anything. UA, US, DL and AA can compete for four slot pairs, with no carrier getting more than two pairs.
Feb 27, 2012, 8:42 pm
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United Airlines has filed for a single daily SFO-DCA frequency as a result of their parameter exemption. AA was also granted slots today, I believe.
My prediction?
AA pulls LAX-IAD (and close the IAD AC) and replaces it with an LAX-DCA 738 frequency.
My prediction?
AA pulls LAX-IAD (and close the IAD AC) and replaces it with an LAX-DCA 738 frequency.
Now, I too expect AA to apply for LAX-DCA (LAX being AA's only hub outside the DCA perimeter), though they'll have a slightly tougher case given that there's already an LAX-DCA flight (on AS). If AA is awarded LAX-DCA, then LAX-IAD might be short-lived.
Feb 27, 2012, 8:57 pm
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United Airlines has filed for a single daily SFO-DCA frequency as a result of their parameter exemption. AA was also granted slots today, I believe.
My prediction?
AA pulls LAX-IAD (and close the IAD AC) and replaces it with an LAX-DCA 738 frequency.
My prediction?
AA pulls LAX-IAD (and close the IAD AC) and replaces it with an LAX-DCA 738 frequency.
UA have added one more olive to the salads. What will AA's response be?
Cheers.
Feb 27, 2012, 8:58 pm
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AA won't have a tough case for the slot at all. There are four slots. They can only go to four airlines. All three of the other airlines already have beyond perimeter slots (US to LAS and PHX; UA to DEN; DL to SLC), which makes AA being awarded the slot a virtual guarantee. And adding competition to the route does not destroy its case, just like it helped UA's case in being awarded DENDCA to compete with Frontier.
VX, B6, etc. are competing from a separate slot pool.
Feb 27, 2012, 9:07 pm
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I'd love to see AA flying DCA/IAD-LAS, though I know that's a pipe dream. I guess DCA-LAX will have to do 
Feb 27, 2012, 9:40 pm
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Very funny! How many flights does AA have left that don't touch a cornerstone? RDU-LHR, BOS-LHR and a few services to the islands from SJU? Could AA use DCA slots for services to LHR? If not I assume the only cornerstone outside the perimeter is LAX so that's the only option under the present regime.
Feb 27, 2012, 10:14 pm
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Very funny! How many flights does AA have left that don't touch a cornerstone? RDU-LHR, BOS-LHR and a few services to the islands from SJU? Could AA use DCA slots for services to LHR? If not I assume the only cornerstone outside the perimeter is LAX so that's the only option under the present regime.
Feb 27, 2012, 10:25 pm
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Whoever gets AUSDCA will have a monopoly on the route. AA doesn't shy away from profitable, point-to-point flying that fills a profitable niche, like FLLPAP, STLDCA and SJUCCS. If you were an airline and offered a guaranteed monopoly between Reagan and the capital of the second most populated State, you're telling me it makes no sense? I don't think so.
Feb 27, 2012, 10:27 pm
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Feb 27, 2012, 10:34 pm
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Well, any perimeter exemptions granted are supposed to provide "domestic network benefits" in areas outside the 1250 mile perimeter. AA has numerous destinations out of LAX that will help it to meet that requirement. The only destinations with N/S AA service from AUS are ORD, DFW, and LAX. I can't imagine the argument that an AUS flight would provide substantial "network benefits."
Feb 27, 2012, 10:45 pm
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The logic extends past that. SMF is not an elite-heavy spoke with an Admiral's Club. AUS is.
Also, AUSDCA is of considerably shorter stage length.
I don't expect AA to apply for AUSDCA, but it wouldn't shock me. B6 or WN will apply, though.
Also, AUSDCA is of considerably shorter stage length.
I don't expect AA to apply for AUSDCA, but it wouldn't shock me. B6 or WN will apply, though.
Feb 27, 2012, 10:57 pm
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Daily O&D between BWI/DCA/IAD and SMF totals about 500 passengers - hardly enough to justify any nonstops. AUS, on the other hand, has 75% more daily O&D with 875 daily passengers from BWI/DCA/IAD.