AA Holiday Miracle/ Bad Behavior
#61
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Not really. You'll find plenty of people here who report having the same experiences. That, and all the people who are lucky enough to be in the same cabins I'm flying in. Then again, from observing the world around me, it's quite clear to me why some get consistently good treatment and others often don't.
Cheers.
Cheers.
I gravitate from isolating so i don't need to engage, but always starting with a "hello" to the FAs when i come onboard. I still observe and generally AA FAs are average - not much difference from US, UA, CO or B6 - the other airlines I use within North/Central America. There are some very good and some sour ones.
If you're looking for a problem, you can definitely find one with FAs on any of the carriers I mentioned.
It is what it is IMO. Some pax want to say everything is great - others think it's all horrible. It sure isn't the Four Seasons but from an attitude perspective I would align AA FAs in the same category as New York taxi drivers - you are likely to get what you give but sometimes even if you are nice it's a lost cause.
#63
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Remember, also, it is not the crime victim who "presses charges". The crime victim reports the crime, the police investigate, then the district attorney / prosecutor makes the decision to go ahead with a a prosecution. Once the crime is reported, the matter is mostly out of the control of the victim. A victim can refuse to cooperate and that can lead to the prosecutor dropping the case, but there is no guarantee.
#64
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BRP told me how to do it.
Maybe it's those who get the poor service who are "special" somehow.
#65
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Actually it's about moderated expectations, which I think you probably have, plus a good attitude.
I gravitate from isolating so i don't need to engage, but always starting with a "hello" to the FAs when i come onboard. I still observe and generally AA FAs are average - not much difference from US, UA, CO or B6 - the other airlines I use within North/Central America. There are some very good and some sour ones.
If you're looking for a problem, you can definitely find one with FAs on any of the carriers I mentioned.
It is what it is IMO. Some pax want to say everything is great - others think it's all horrible. It sure isn't the Four Seasons but from an attitude perspective I would align AA FAs in the same category as New York taxi drivers - you are likely to get what you give but sometimes even if you are nice it's a lost cause.
I gravitate from isolating so i don't need to engage, but always starting with a "hello" to the FAs when i come onboard. I still observe and generally AA FAs are average - not much difference from US, UA, CO or B6 - the other airlines I use within North/Central America. There are some very good and some sour ones.
If you're looking for a problem, you can definitely find one with FAs on any of the carriers I mentioned.
It is what it is IMO. Some pax want to say everything is great - others think it's all horrible. It sure isn't the Four Seasons but from an attitude perspective I would align AA FAs in the same category as New York taxi drivers - you are likely to get what you give but sometimes even if you are nice it's a lost cause.
If I see an FA or some other service employee who looks like they are really burned out it is my policy to ask first "is everything OK"
Than again there are some people who treat any service person as being beneath them and worthy for only contempt. Many here have seen those individuals and reported same.
Last edited by magic111; Jan 6, 2012 at 11:45 pm
#66
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I love the fact that this FA committed grand theft, and was caught red handed with the loot. But this forum is still sticking up for the FA.
A DUI should disqualify all air crew also.
A DUI should disqualify all air crew also.
#67
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Agreed, utterly shocking that anyone is defending this lying thief who is a disgrace to any business. I bet AA wont be defending her.
#68
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Nope, I'm in the same category as brp too. So there's a few us who don't get bad service from AA
The only issue I've had with AA over the years was on a JFK-LHR flight when the FA sitting in the bulk head opposite 31A,B forgot to put the door to automatic on the 777. I wasn't paying attention during the departure prep but about 1/2 way through the flight I noticed the door was still in manual. I spoke to the Purser of the Flight as I didn't want to touch the door control myself. She took the situation very seriously and remedied the problem immediately and took down some details about the incident so that it could be reported. She also had the FA responsible (who was working the J cabin) come speak with me to apologise.
The FA explained that she was trying to remember PAX names on her seating plan and it slipped her mind. I laughed and said that I would rather she didn't forget about the slides as I wouldn't want to be pushed onto the tarmac in the likely panic that would ensue following an emergency landing! She wasn't too pleased with my response and was a bit cold during the landing roll when she had to sit opposite me again!
Given that I'd just called her on a transgression of protocol I felt that her coldness was expected although not really justified. However, seems others on here have more issues with AA than I!! Personally I think if you treat the FAs right they'll generally treat you right. Seems to work for me anyway.
Nope, I'm in the same category as brp too. So there's a few us who don't get bad service from AA
The only issue I've had with AA over the years was on a JFK-LHR flight when the FA sitting in the bulk head opposite 31A,B forgot to put the door to automatic on the 777. I wasn't paying attention during the departure prep but about 1/2 way through the flight I noticed the door was still in manual. I spoke to the Purser of the Flight as I didn't want to touch the door control myself. She took the situation very seriously and remedied the problem immediately and took down some details about the incident so that it could be reported. She also had the FA responsible (who was working the J cabin) come speak with me to apologise.
The FA explained that she was trying to remember PAX names on her seating plan and it slipped her mind. I laughed and said that I would rather she didn't forget about the slides as I wouldn't want to be pushed onto the tarmac in the likely panic that would ensue following an emergency landing! She wasn't too pleased with my response and was a bit cold during the landing roll when she had to sit opposite me again!
Given that I'd just called her on a transgression of protocol I felt that her coldness was expected although not really justified. However, seems others on here have more issues with AA than I!! Personally I think if you treat the FAs right they'll generally treat you right. Seems to work for me anyway.
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#69
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I'm with dannyk on this one. You can forgive the FA her transgression and not hold a grudge against her, but forgiveness and filing a complaint with law enforcement are not mutually exclusive in my mind.
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Could you please elaborate on how "this forum" is sticking up for the FA? The overwhelming majority of posts condemn the FA's actions and/or compliment the OP. But maybe we're using different kinds of math.
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Overall, I gravitate toward isolationism and people avoidance as well, though
Cheers.
#74
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Cleanup on aisle 4!
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#75
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Not really. You'll find plenty of people here who report having the same experiences. That, and all the people who are lucky enough to be in the same cabins I'm flying in. Then again, from observing the world around me, it's quite clear to me why some get consistently good treatment and others often don't.
Cheers.
Not really. You'll find plenty of people here who report having the same experiences. That, and all the people who are lucky enough to be in the same cabins I'm flying in. Then again, from observing the world around me, it's quite clear to me why some get consistently good treatment and others often don't.
Cheers.
Usually one gets what one gives. My view is it's just easier to be pleasant.