SkyTeam777

Thanks so much for your thoughtful responses! I think that is very confusing though that there are different products based on the aircraft. I know it has to do with galley space, but the customer may not know which aircraft they are booking. When they get J on 763 or 75L flights, they expect the same style and pattern on 772 flights. Shame on AA for playing the game of different service on aircraft with F. Pax should not have to figure that out for themselves.

HNL

It was trade-off made years ago when AA eliminated first class on the 763s.

SkyTeam777

Why should customers have to suffer that trade off? The inconsistency would only drive customers who want service standards they can count on (on a US carrier) to DL or UA.

HNL

Are you assuming that I am defending AA on this? All I did was state the facts with no pro or con commentary.

elitetraveler

The actual meals on AA are better than UA/DL - it is really how they are delivered that varies - and that the crews tend to do it their own way based on how engaged they are. PMCO of a few years ago would be about the same as AA intl J - DL is a bit behind IMO.

Seating is another story.

And as for the consistency argument - DL currently offers six types of J seats on trans-Oceanic routes: 744 flat, 777 flat, 767 recliner, 767 flat, 757 recliner, A330 ski slope.

Robt760

The major flaw to this statement is this....I've heard AA say many times that on International flights with 763 and 757L (with the NGBC seats and Business Class Service) is that they offer an enhanced service beyond what one would get in 772 Business Class due to "F" not being offered in the 763/757L. In other words it's better and not worse than the 777 J service.

We shall see how this all plays out once the 772 has "F" removed, and the 773 will be the only International flights with "F" offered. As it stands, there have been a few discussions around about AA wanting to make the difference between J and F more distinguished, starting with the new amenity kits that are about to be introduced the first week of December. Seating and spaciousness TBD.

rfrost

I think my last 763 TATL in J prior to this weekend was in October, and that was to MXP, so I'm not sure whether the changes I noted on myJFK-CDG flights (763 on the outbound, 757 on the return) are specific to that route, BUT the crudites were gone, and not replaced by an alternative--only nuts now. There was a warm breakfast option (a cheese omelette), which I don't remember being offered previously.

atcanobbio

i knoew that most meals were big on carbs and sodium but i didnt think it was that much. And most meals are fairly low on protein.

I think i''l try to stick with low-sodium/fat meals from now on.

BlissWorld

Does anyone have any pictures of the new int'l J/F meal service?

Time to post them, folks!

chanp

I have both from Dec. Out of town now, but will post next week. Or email them to you.

DALtoAAL

Here you go!

BlissWorld

Do post them when you get a chance ^

Thanks! ^

The new plates, particularly the square ones, look a lot like Delta's. The presentation seems to suffer a bit as a result. It looks a lot like Delta Business Elite.

Also, salad and appetizer used to be served separately in two cabin J, but they seem to be served on one tray now, just like 3 cabin J. The service seems to be actually downgraded...

DALtoAAL

And no more marinated cheese antipasto..! But I assume that now the meal service on intercontinental flights is more or less identical regardless of the aircraft type.

MrAndy1369

Perhaps this was 3-class J?

Also, the main entree looks smaller than before...or is that because of the big plate?

IMHO, I liked the old round plates better...I don't know, square plates just look/feel cheaper to me, and there's something classy about the older plates. All legacies now except UA use square plates on their business/first cabins internationally (AA/DL/US)... UA stil uses round plates on BF/GF.

orknot2be

Does anyone know what kind of entree choices they have in First on JFK-EZE. My parents are flying in a few days and would eat the pasta (assuming no meat, just sauce/cheese/vegetables), but I'm unable to find out for them if this definitely a choice on the menu so I have meanwhile ordered vegetarian meals for them which apparently are actually vegan and don't sound very appetizing.

Can anyone clarify the menu choices for that route, or if anyone has experience with the vegan meals, how are they (be honest!!).

Also, if someone has a special meal order, does that mean that they will not get other parts of the first class meal such as salad or deserts?

Thanks for any insight into this. Happy New Year to all my fellow FT's.