AA & EY / Etihad Airways launch reciprocal miles redemptions
Mar 15, 2012, 7:06 pm
#511
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The KVS Tool is the only one that supports Etihad Award Availability:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes
Mar 15, 2012, 9:39 pm
#512
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[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards-Upgrades/EY]
Code:
AUH Abu Dhabi Intl AE [OMAA]
LHR London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
THU 22 Nov 2012
Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- --------------
EY 11 AUH 02:40 LHR 06:45 77W 0 O5 IL N5 R7 X5
EY 19 AUH 08:20 LHR 12:25 346 0 O9 I2 N5 R9 X9
EY 17 AUH 13:25 LHR 17:30 346 0 O7 I2 N5 R9 X3
Mar 15, 2012, 9:43 pm
#513
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Otherwise, perhaps it is an equipment timing issue as they roll out F service to the 777? EY is clearly selling F seats for the AUH-LHR leg (wife is confirmed already), but according to the EY website they do not offer F service on the 777ER. Can anyone confirm whether or not the current EY AUH-LHR service has an F cabin?
[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Amadeus Enhanced Seat Map: 22 Nov 2012/EY 11/AUH-LHR/77W/First]
Code:
A | D | G | K 1 + + X X 2 + - + + [+] Available [P] Preferred [G] Galley [-] Unavailable [X] Blocked
Mar 16, 2012, 7:47 am
#514
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Indeed:
[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Amadeus Enhanced Seat Map: 22 Nov 2012/EY 11/AUH-LHR/77W/First]
[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Amadeus Enhanced Seat Map: 22 Nov 2012/EY 11/AUH-LHR/77W/First]
Code:
A | D | G | K 1 + + X X 2 + - + + [+] Available [P] Preferred [G] Galley [-] Unavailable [X] Blocked
Mar 17, 2012, 1:16 am
#515
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(1) ORD -> AUH
(2) AUH -> SEZ
(3) SEZ -> AUH
(4) AUH -> LHR
This is because a connection in the Middle East / Indian Subcontinent is not allowed on a North America <-> Africa award redemption using AA miles.
Mar 17, 2012, 5:49 am
#516
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Agreed. I was able to put LHR-AUH-SEZ on hold as one award but could never ticket it (tried for several agents). Ended up doing LHR-AUH-MLE as Male is considered ME/India.
Mar 17, 2012, 6:27 am
#517
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Indeed 4 awards are required. To clarify I found that routing availability for two passengers. I was not inferring that it was 2 awards.
Mar 21, 2012, 12:55 pm
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trying to book rdu-jfk-mle in business class. i am well aware of the ticketing rules and i am being quoted 185k per passenger round trip (67.5k + 25k each way), which i know is the correct amount as per the rules
however in one of his non-chase-saphire-gold posts gary @ view from the wing indicated that if you call enough times you can find agents who will ticket as one 67.5k award. has anyone had any recent experience booking anywhere-usa-auh-mle as one 67.5k level award?
however in one of his non-chase-saphire-gold posts gary @ view from the wing indicated that if you call enough times you can find agents who will ticket as one 67.5k award. has anyone had any recent experience booking anywhere-usa-auh-mle as one 67.5k level award?
Mar 21, 2012, 1:15 pm
#519
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Otherwise, it's a much better deal to fly CX into CMB, which I hear has a better overall F experience, for 67.5k instead of 90k. From CMB, it's only $200/RT on Sri Lankan Airlines to MLE. From a miles perspective, you are getting less than 1 cpm of value for the incremental 22.5k miles by going the EY route.
Mar 21, 2012, 2:09 pm
#520
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I assume anyone doing this is paying up for the EY experience, wanting another "notch in the bedpost" for F experiences.
Otherwise, it's a much better deal to fly CX into CMB, which I hear has a better overall F experience, for 67.5k instead of 90k. From CMB, it's only $200/RT on Sri Lankan Airlines to MLE. From a miles perspective, you are getting less than 1 cpm of value for the incremental 22.5k miles by going the EY route.
Otherwise, it's a much better deal to fly CX into CMB, which I hear has a better overall F experience, for 67.5k instead of 90k. From CMB, it's only $200/RT on Sri Lankan Airlines to MLE. From a miles perspective, you are getting less than 1 cpm of value for the incremental 22.5k miles by going the EY route.
Mar 21, 2012, 3:13 pm
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ma91pmh, AA telephone agents don't ticket anything. Even if you find an agent who sets up the itinerary for 67.5K miles, the ticketing department is going to reject it if the routing rules of the applicable published fare don't allow the lower amount.
Mar 21, 2012, 3:48 pm
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I assume anyone doing this is paying up for the EY experience, wanting another "notch in the bedpost" for F experiences.
Otherwise, it's a much better deal to fly CX into CMB, which I hear has a better overall F experience, for 67.5k instead of 90k. From CMB, it's only $200/RT on Sri Lankan Airlines to MLE. From a miles perspective, you are getting less than 1 cpm of value for the incremental 22.5k miles by going the EY route.
Otherwise, it's a much better deal to fly CX into CMB, which I hear has a better overall F experience, for 67.5k instead of 90k. From CMB, it's only $200/RT on Sri Lankan Airlines to MLE. From a miles perspective, you are getting less than 1 cpm of value for the incremental 22.5k miles by going the EY route.
Mar 21, 2012, 5:00 pm
#523
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I was originally told it was 67.5k miles per person one-way; however, when it went to ticketing it was charged at the correct amount as two awards.
ma91pmh, don't believe everything you read on the internet.
Mar 21, 2012, 5:00 pm
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Yes that is true and correct. Though the agents are supposed to screen for valid ticketing routing. So to get such an invalid routing ticketed you need both a) the agent to miss it and b) the ticketing department to either miss or forgive it. Which makes the blog claim that much harder to believe, but other than excessive credit card pushing, Gary Leff is a high quality blogger who knows his onions, so I doubt he'd just make this stuff up. His claim was if you try enough times you can get them to ticket. So I am curious if anyone here has been subject to that good luck
Mar 21, 2012, 5:02 pm
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I assume anyone doing this is paying up for the EY experience, wanting another "notch in the bedpost" for F experiences.
Otherwise, it's a much better deal to fly CX into CMB, which I hear has a better overall F experience, for 67.5k instead of 90k. From CMB, it's only $200/RT on Sri Lankan Airlines to MLE. From a miles perspective, you are getting less than 1 cpm of value for the incremental 22.5k miles by going the EY route.
Otherwise, it's a much better deal to fly CX into CMB, which I hear has a better overall F experience, for 67.5k instead of 90k. From CMB, it's only $200/RT on Sri Lankan Airlines to MLE. From a miles perspective, you are getting less than 1 cpm of value for the incremental 22.5k miles by going the EY route.
So, your options are:
CX - US-HKG-(BKK/SIN)-CMB-MLE
EY - JFK-AUH-MLE