Exhausted FA's build 'fort'
#61
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I would also not be distressed by what the OP saw. However I may have lower expectations than most AA premium passengers/elites since I was flying UA, DL, AC, B6 and even US 6 months ago.
FAs providing service when needed and then quietly withdrawing to a private area and sleeping discreetly would be a pleasant surprise on some of these carriers.
My worst FA experience with AA was them continuing to serve an intoxicated passenger even after he spilled his drink on me more than once. My worst FA experience period was a (probably) intoxicated US FA spilling drinks on multiple passengers.
FAs providing service when needed and then quietly withdrawing to a private area and sleeping discreetly would be a pleasant surprise on some of these carriers.
My worst FA experience with AA was them continuing to serve an intoxicated passenger even after he spilled his drink on me more than once. My worst FA experience period was a (probably) intoxicated US FA spilling drinks on multiple passengers.
#62
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#63
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Can anyone answer why FA's would be asleep in the forward galley when there are four crew rest seats in row 17?
#64
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The blocking the forward lav is the only problem that I would have. When one gets up in the middle of the night to go the last thing one wants to do is stand in the aisle for ten minutes waiting for a free lav. As long as there is one FA on duty for a beverage request I see no problem if the boys (FAs) want to hold a gossip round table in the galley.
#65
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I agree. While I think that this is very unprofessional, if the service were otherwise good, I wouldn't waste my time worrying nor writing over it.
Since I'm not seeing the degradation in service that some are reporting, I don't see this as the harbinger of doom that some claim.
Cheers.
Since I'm not seeing the degradation in service that some are reporting, I don't see this as the harbinger of doom that some claim.
Cheers.
#67
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Emphasis added.
You're the perfect candidate for AA's service, since they stripped it down in order to provide lowest fare. Personally, I pay a premium to get a decent car, I pay a premium to get a decent meal, and it goes without saying that I pay a premium to get a decent flight...although the elite programs warp the definition of "decent".
You're the perfect candidate for AA's service, since they stripped it down in order to provide lowest fare. Personally, I pay a premium to get a decent car, I pay a premium to get a decent meal, and it goes without saying that I pay a premium to get a decent flight...although the elite programs warp the definition of "decent".
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Emphasis added.
You're the perfect candidate for AA's service, since they stripped it down in order to provide lowest fare. Personally, I pay a premium to get a decent car, I pay a premium to get a decent meal, and it goes without saying that I pay a premium to get a decent flight...although the elite programs warp the definition of "decent".
You're the perfect candidate for AA's service, since they stripped it down in order to provide lowest fare. Personally, I pay a premium to get a decent car, I pay a premium to get a decent meal, and it goes without saying that I pay a premium to get a decent flight...although the elite programs warp the definition of "decent".
If you're paying on AA that way, you're blowing it. I pay for dirt cheap economy, upgrade and get the same service as you. Whether it should or shouldn't be that way is irrelevant to this point. That's what it is.
I only pay a premium for things when I'm actually going to get something for it.
Cheers.
#69
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If you're paying on AA that way, you're blowing it. I pay for dirt cheap economy, upgrade and get the same service as you. Whether it should or shouldn't be that way is irrelevant to this point. That's what it is.
I only pay a premium for things when I'm actually going to get something for it.
I only pay a premium for things when I'm actually going to get something for it.
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See, that's your mistake. I pay a premium to have a really nice car. I'll also pay the premium for a good meal and very nice wine. Because I get those things when I pay for it.
If you're paying on AA that way, you're blowing it. I pay for dirt cheap economy, upgrade and get the same service as you. Whether it should or shouldn't be that way is irrelevant to this point. That's what it is.
I only pay a premium for things when I'm actually going to get something for it.
Cheers.
If you're paying on AA that way, you're blowing it. I pay for dirt cheap economy, upgrade and get the same service as you. Whether it should or shouldn't be that way is irrelevant to this point. That's what it is.
I only pay a premium for things when I'm actually going to get something for it.
Cheers.
+1, I could not agree more. Spending personal money is a matter of evaluating the utility you will get for the cost of spending more. In respects to flying AA (all other airlines set aside), paying $10K for a hop across the pond in F will not (in my personal valuations) give you the value worthy of the price paid.
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Just to put things in perspective. I would much rather use a service provider whose employees believe they can sleep on the floor as long as they get their job done, than one whose employees have the following view:
#73
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Oh, come now, twas simply a fun-filled joke. The only person who truly holds this view is my wife.
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And in a clear air turbulence encounter, what would have happened to the "fort" made of 250 plus pound carts ? Carts in use for service or flight deck door protection or "galley secure" ..This crew apparently "here for our safety" unless they want to do something unsafe that fits a need of theirs...The "fort" created a potential safety issue...Why send a letter to commend ?
#75
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If this crew was the "best" and so "fantastic" and the flight experience was "great", and safety standards weren't compromised (one awake or whatever the rule requires), then what's the problem?