AA 88/89 ORD-BRU-ORD Going Away
Sep 17, 2011, 10:54 pm
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It would work in terms of filling the plane. Local market around 60,000 annual passengers, slightly larger than Chicago-Brussels, which is around 55,000 annually. Miami is the fourth largest U.S.-Brussels market after New York, LA and Washington.
Sep 18, 2011, 1:43 am
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In that case I see another possibility: temporarily replacing a 777 w/a 763 for a couple Europe or South America flights due to available pilots since AA has more pilots qualified for the type. If they get to the point where they have to cut routes to get enough 763s then this again seems like a logical one. Anything being downgauged that you know of?
Sep 18, 2011, 2:01 am
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That change appears to only last for a few weeks, though (followed by a very temporary change where the morning flight and its return go to a 777) and I'd bet with near certainty that this is a result of the loss of 777 pilots and the gap needing to be filled until more can be certified. However it doesn't appear to have any connection to the BRU cancellations.
Sep 18, 2011, 2:14 am
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That change appears to only last for a few weeks, though (followed by a very temporary change where the morning flight and its return go to a 777) and I'd bet with near certainty that this is a result of the loss of 777 pilots and the gap needing to be filled until more can be certified. However it doesn't appear to have any connection to the BRU cancellations.
Sep 18, 2011, 2:26 am
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Twas just answering the question above asking if anyone had seen 777->767 downgagued. I'm flying 87 again in mid-October and noticed my seat map had changed to a 767. The 767 for this change had to come from somewhere and is probably the BRU 767 but you are correct that this doesn't imply that the LHR downgauge is in any way causal for the BRU cancellation.
Sep 18, 2011, 5:14 am
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We are flying 86 in early November and the seat map reflects a 777.
Sep 18, 2011, 10:20 am
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Historically, how long does it usually take until AA officially cancels a flight and begins rescheduling passengers now that flights 88/89 have been zeroed out?
Sep 18, 2011, 12:21 pm
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In my experience this is typically the Sunday night batch run, so if that holds true this time, you should see this loaded tomorrow morning.
Sep 18, 2011, 1:13 pm
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Unless they decide to do a manual adjustment to the schedule, expect your reservation to show the cancellation on Sunday 25 September, at which point you can ask for a reaccomodation (or change the one automagically made for you if it doesn't suit you) or a full refund of your ticket.
Sep 19, 2011, 12:03 am
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Sad to see this flight go but understandable from an economic viewpoint. There're 6 daily flights between ORD&LHR (4 AA, 2 BA). I guess my travel will take me more often to LHR. (although I don't really like this airport)
I would love to see a direct flight BRU-MIA but there're several options with good connections at this point through LHR. I don't know if a direct flight would be profitable.
I would love to see a direct flight BRU-MIA but there're several options with good connections at this point through LHR. I don't know if a direct flight would be profitable.
Sep 19, 2011, 8:36 am
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AA have been pretty good, IME, in working with people in cases like this. Going in there insisting may result in their not being accommodating. As a result, this may not be the best advice.
Cheers.
Sep 19, 2011, 9:56 am
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If you guys are going to throw around obsolete rules to the poor phone or gate agents, at least say "Rule 80" and not "Rule 240" as 240 was the domestic rule and 80 applied to international itineraries. Last I checked, BRU is not domestic. 
More on AA's Rules 80/240 here:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/agency/Bookin...ule_240_80.jsp
More on AA's Rules 80/240 here:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/agency/Bookin...ule_240_80.jsp
Sep 19, 2011, 11:11 am
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I have a one world reservation with a segment BRU-ORD. A schedule change connecting anywhere would be put me over the 16 segments allowed. Even if they allow me to change to BRU-NY-ORD and exceed 16 segments I do not want to connect anywhere because of the added time. Would they allow me to change my flight to arrive into another European city say Rome, Madrid, or Dublin and fly non stop to ORD? Anyone have experience on oneworld schedule change like this?
Sep 19, 2011, 11:34 am
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Last edited by hillrider; Sep 19, 2011 at 12:47 pm Reason: Clarification
Sep 19, 2011, 12:08 pm
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Uh huh. And does that tariff dictate that AA must re-route on another carrier, or specifically another carrier of the passenger's choice? Not as I read it, it does not.