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Decrease in catering or were we all too thirsty?
I know that there have been several threads about the low supply of Glenlivet on AA flights (which seems to be in more than adequate quantities on US flights) but last night I hit a first:
I was on AA 1976 DFW-IND, pre-departure drinks were served, then once in flight, the FA started pouring doubles; F was full; half way through the flight the FA goes to coach to raid the drink cart of scotch, Jack Daniels and Jim Bean, and half way through the flight the only the only thing left on the plane that qualifies as such is Canadian Club. So my question is: did AA cut back on catering or I was part of a group of candidates for the next Alcoholic Anonymus? |
That's probably more drinking than average, and I'll bet the doubles may have been involved.
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If I were flying DFW-IND, I'd be drinking heavily, too.
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Considering the presentday AA mentality is to cut things left and right, (also known as an "enhancement" in AA language)....I wouldn't be shocked if they have cut back on catering.
I have noticed less attentive service from the FAs, less refill offerings in the last year especially. Lately I've noticed FA's sitting down or chatting in the galley longer than they did in the past. Sometimes atleast 20-25 minutes before beverage service is offered. After the service is over, maybe one round of refills and then they are confined to the galley almost for the rest of the flight. |
Originally Posted by demkr
(Post 15395150)
Considering the presentday AA mentality is to cut things left and right, (also known as an "enhancement" in AA language)....I wouldn't be shocked if they have cut back on catering.
I have noticed less attentive service from the FAs, less refill offerings in the last year especially. Lately I've noticed FA's sitting down or chatting in the galley longer than they did in the past. Sometimes atleast 20-25 minutes before beverage service is offered. After the service is over, maybe one round of refills and then they are confined to the galley almost for the rest of the flight. |
Originally Posted by Blumie
(Post 15395169)
Maybe it's time for you to change your carrier.
I can gripe to the end on these things but they aren't too major of a frustration. Because they give you so many employee recognition certificates as an EXP, I almost always hand one to an FA when they actually greet pax as they come on the plane, as opposed to hemming and hawwing because they weren't ready for boarding! The drink refills is honestly something that I've *just* noticed in the past few months ... so I'm not sure if its a cost cutting issue or just additional poor service. I will keep my options in mind for the future, but for 2011, I'm choiceless. :o |
So, how many doubles did you have?
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Sounds like the time that a large group of us were on a flight to an award meeting.... a senior executive of the company handed out $100 bills to the FAs and said "keep pouring till you run out of booze....":p
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After three singles of JD on a PHX-ORD flight yesterday, and about to order a fourth, the plane was dry of drinkable bourbon. Only Mr Beam's turpentine remained :(
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Originally Posted by WillR
(Post 15395287)
After three singles of JD on a PHX-ORD flight yesterday, and about to order a fourth, the plane was dry of drinkable bourbon. Only Mr Beam's turpentine remained :(
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Originally Posted by mvoight
(Post 15395237)
So, how many doubles did you have?
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Originally Posted by Blumie
(Post 15395118)
If I were flying DFW-IND, I'd be drinking heavily, too.
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Drink heavily or fly DFW-IND twenty times a year?
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Originally Posted by docr775
(Post 15395935)
2 JDs and 1 CC.
On my last ORD-LAX, asked for a healthy bit of scotch, and after checking, she told me they had Chivas and Glenlivet left.( Chivas is NOT scotch) " Glenlivet thank you !"....no brainer.( Thought it was only offered on internationals??). When they FA returned, my glass was nearly filled to the TOP of my glass. I honestly don't think the FA knew what she was pouring.... Needless to say, there is a small place in hell, for those that waste good scotch. ;) HP |
Originally Posted by HighPotter
(Post 15396273)
( Chivas is NOT scotch) " Glenlivet thank you !"....no brainer.
Given that Glenlivet 12 is at the bottom of the barrel for actual single malt, it's not really that much of a no-brainer. Let's see- Johnny Blue or Glenlivet 12... Cheers. |
Just so you know, Glenlivet is on every AA mainline domestic flight.
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Originally Posted by brp
(Post 15396306)
Chivas most definitely is Scotch Whisky. It's not single malt. And, if you're ever in Scotland, don't ask for Scotch unless you want to insult them.
Given that Glenlivet 12 is at the bottom of the barrel for actual single malt, it's not really that much of a no-brainer. Let's see- Johnny Blue or Glenlivet 12... Cheers. And my comment on Chivas NOT being Scotch was tongue in cheek....my opinion only. And since I haven't been to Scotland., I will continue to order "Scotch". Yes I do know the difference between Single Malt and the rest. Sorry I touched a nerve. HP |
Originally Posted by HighPotter
(Post 15396465)
Sorry I touched a nerve.
HP Cheers. |
Originally Posted by diaspora04
(Post 15395835)
Strictly speaking, JD is not bourbon.
Although, I have just checked wikipedia and can't see which of the legal requirements for the appellation "bourbon " aren't met. Apparently being produced in Kentucky is no longer one... |
Originally Posted by brp
(Post 15396500)
No nerves. With the levels of inaccuracy here on FT, I figured that this was another one. Since I know something about this (and did get a very stern and correction for ordering "Scotch" in Scotland :D) I figured I'd correct this as well.
Cheers. Not a problem. To be honest, I was just shocked that the FA poured a quadruple+(sp)?.....Did she see something in my eyes? lol ;) HP |
Originally Posted by WillR
(Post 15396573)
I have just checked wikipedia and can't see which of the legal requirements for the appellation "bourbon " aren't met.
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Originally Posted by HighPotter
(Post 15396273)
On my last ORD-LAX, asked for a healthy bit of scotch, and after checking, she told me they had Chivas and Glenlivet left.( Chivas is NOT scotch) " Glenlivet thank you !"....no brainer.( Thought it was only offered on internationals??).
When they FA returned, my glass was nearly filled to the TOP of my glass. I honestly don't think the FA knew what she was pouring.... Needless to say, there is a small place in hell, for those that waste good scotch. ;) HP |
I think spiff must have been on the OPs flight.
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Originally Posted by brp
(Post 15396306)
It's not single malt. And, if you're ever in Scotland, don't ask for Scotch unless you want to insult them.
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Originally Posted by sts603
(Post 15398915)
I've been to Scotland and didn't notice this. Granted, I would order by brand/year. What should one order instead of "scotch"?
Apparently, there, there is no other kind :) Cheers. |
Originally Posted by brp
(Post 15399039)
I was in a B&B in Aberdeen, and asked what kind of Scotch they had. The waitress fixed me with a steely gaze and, in an almost dangerous tone, asked "You mean whisky don't 'cha, laddie?"
Apparently, there, there is no other kind :) Cheers. |
Originally Posted by brp
(Post 15396306)
Chivas most definitely is Scotch Whisky. It's not single malt. And, if you're ever in Scotland, don't ask for Scotch unless you want to insult them.
Given that Glenlivet 12 is at the bottom of the barrel for actual single malt, it's not really that much of a no-brainer. Let's see- Johnny Blue or Glenlivet 12... Cheers. Which routes exactly are now serving Johnny Blue? I'll change my business plans. |
Originally Posted by Thumper
(Post 15399227)
I'm obviously on the wrong AA flights.
Which routes exactly are now serving Johnny Blue? I'll change my business plans. |
Originally Posted by sts603
(Post 15399267)
No AA flights. But the Galleries F lounge at LHR in T5 was serving it last month.
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Flew DFW-LAX on a 757...we ran out of JD after one round. Raided the back and we were able to have a second round. So maybe they have cut back on the number of minis.
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Originally Posted by KD5MDK
(Post 15396448)
Just so you know, Glenlivet is on every AA mainline domestic flight.
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But what about the Diet Coke? Seems every time I fly LHR-DFW or LHR-ORD, all of the Diet Coke is gone before the pre-landing snack is served. Always plenty of Diet Pepsi, though. You'd think they would notice this trend....
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Originally Posted by WillR
(Post 15396573)
Touché. Sour mash whiskey then.
Although, I have just checked wikipedia and can't see which of the legal requirements for the appellation "bourbon " aren't met. Apparently being produced in Kentucky is no longer one...
Originally Posted by KtownTraveler
(Post 15396601)
Too much corn. And filtered. W L Weller is better anyway. But everyone seems to expect JD.
Charcoal Mellowing makes Jack Daniel's what it is – a Tennessee Whiskey and not a Bourbon. It refines our whiskey's rich flavor even before we fully mature it in barrels of our own making.
Originally Posted by HighPotter
(Post 15396273)
Needless to say, there is a small place in hell, for those that waste good scotch.
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Originally Posted by janetdoe
(Post 15402866)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourbon...l_requirements
Nope - there is a minimum corn content, but no max. JD claims it's the charcoal filtering that nixes JD - I'm not sure where that violates the definition of Bourbon, unless it's somehow construed as a 'flavoring'. My husband drinks Scotch and Coke. Surely he belongs in the 9th circle of hell. :eek: HP |
Originally Posted by janetdoe
(Post 15402866)
Nope - there is a minimum corn content, but no max.
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Originally Posted by WillR
(Post 15396573)
Touché. Sour mash whiskey then.
Although, I have just checked wikipedia and can't see which of the legal requirements for the appellation "bourbon " aren't met. Apparently being produced in Kentucky is no longer one... Many Bourbons are in fact sour mash, all which that means the mash from a last batch is added to the new batch. Akin to starter for sourdough always being used in the next batch for generations. It doesn't really matter as it is not really very good and there are better real Bourbons available in the same price range. Notwithstanding its averageness, if you are near Nashville (used to be a great AA hub ex-YYZ) a side trip to Lynchburg for the tour is worth it. No samples. It's a dry county but they don't give samples to to other regulations and hassle. Apparently they could give samples under county law if they wanted to. They give you very nice lemonade. |
Good for you guys, I normally roll with just a club soda ;)
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Originally Posted by AH-64D
(Post 15401989)
Yup, a whole two bottles for a total of 100ml.
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Originally Posted by KD5MDK
(Post 15410785)
I've often seen 4. Anyway, as long as I get them.
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If you read through the entire text of the link you posted, you will also see this: Regarding above, international agreements may stipulate that bourbon be at no more than 79% corn. But US law has no such restriction as can be seen at [link]. US law does not explicitly exclude charcoal filtering prior to aging for bourbon, so legally Jack and GD probably qualify as bourbon.
Originally Posted by KtownTraveler
(Post 15396601)
Too much corn. And filtered.
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