CO to AA Is it worth it?
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: CO Plat, Marriott Plat
Posts: 82
CO to AA Is it worth it?
I have in excess of 120K miles on CO and, since I am lumped in with everone else who has earned or bought their way to 75K Plat, am tired of sitting in back.
I will be flying weekly to NE Texas for the next 5 months and considering switching to AA and trying for status match. My question: Is it worth it?
I will be flying weekly to NE Texas for the next 5 months and considering switching to AA and trying for status match. My question: Is it worth it?
#2
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: AA EXP, 1 MM, AC, HH Diamond, Marriott Silver, Hertz 5*
Posts: 4,010
Here's the information on challenges from the FAQ. That may help you decide whether it's worth it.
Does AA offer status matches or Challenges?
#3
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 5,270
Flying from where to NE Texas? If it's another AA hub (ORD or MIA), your chances for upgrades as a Plat might be just as slim.
#4
Join Date: May 2008
Location: NYC
Programs: DL PM; UA 1K; AA 1MM
Posts: 4,514
If the OP has flown 120K this year, then he/she would make EXP, which would give unlimited upgrades (based on availability, of course) on the flight to DFW (assuming it's not Eagle also...again, the where from question is important).
It's my understanding that AA F has more seats than CO F, so that would help updgrade chances, if OP earns AA EXP.
#5
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: YYF/YLW
Programs: AA, DL, AS, VA, WS Silver
Posts: 5,951
If the OP is flying to NE Texas, odds are he/she will be connecting at DFW to Eagle planes to (Tyler? Longview?), but the question of 'where from' is a pertinent one.
If the OP has flown 120K this year, then he/she would make EXP, which would give unlimited upgrades (based on availability, of course) on the flight to DFW (assuming it's not Eagle also...again, the where from question is important).
If the OP has flown 120K this year, then he/she would make EXP, which would give unlimited upgrades (based on availability, of course) on the flight to DFW (assuming it's not Eagle also...again, the where from question is important).
If your frequent travel to NE Texas really is limited to a 5 month job, I probably wouldn't switch to AA just for that travel with the information you've given. If you plan to stick with AA afterwards, that may well be a different story, but it's very hard to evaluate with the information we have about your travel patterns.
#6
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Hellsea - NY, NY, USA
Programs: AA EXP, UA 1K, Marriott LT Titanium
Posts: 1,994
Recently my flying habits have me shifting some of my travel to *A. I will say, nothing really compares to EXP on AA.
I haven't had the opportunity to fly CO yet, but I must say one of the things I do miss is with oneworld, you get your elite bonus miles on every partner, not just a select few like CO/UA.
Also the F lounges are definitely missed when flying on *A carriers.
The redeeming thing about *A are the number of partners for award opportunities. This is definitely one of the sore spots about OW is its lack of diversity with partners.
Also, I've found that my experience with redemption on AA has been very good. Once I got my status matched to Platinum on CO last month, I did a few experimental searches for premium awards (which I'm supposed to have expanded availability on CO), and it was exactly what I remembered. Not a stitch on CO metal.
All in all, I'm going to focus my efforts in 2011 to keep EXP on AA, and fly just enough to maintain *G on a *A carrier. Whether that remains CO or possibly might switch to AC after 2011 remains to be seen. But I would say AA at the top tier is a significantly better program than CO/UA.
I haven't had the opportunity to fly CO yet, but I must say one of the things I do miss is with oneworld, you get your elite bonus miles on every partner, not just a select few like CO/UA.
Also the F lounges are definitely missed when flying on *A carriers.
The redeeming thing about *A are the number of partners for award opportunities. This is definitely one of the sore spots about OW is its lack of diversity with partners.
Also, I've found that my experience with redemption on AA has been very good. Once I got my status matched to Platinum on CO last month, I did a few experimental searches for premium awards (which I'm supposed to have expanded availability on CO), and it was exactly what I remembered. Not a stitch on CO metal.
All in all, I'm going to focus my efforts in 2011 to keep EXP on AA, and fly just enough to maintain *G on a *A carrier. Whether that remains CO or possibly might switch to AC after 2011 remains to be seen. But I would say AA at the top tier is a significantly better program than CO/UA.
#7
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: CO Plat, Marriott Plat
Posts: 82
The origination is EWR and travel will continue at the current rate for the foreseeable future. It is just that in the next 5 months the destination is NE Tx. After that it will be another part of the country.
#8
Join Date: Jul 2005
Programs: DL-Plat
Posts: 142
I've always had good luck upgrading on AA out of EWR, even when I was PLT, but that may just be the luck of the draw. I like the Admiral's Club there, and it never seems as crowded as the President's Club. Five years ago I would have said without hesitation that CO was much better than AA. Today, I prefer AA, though there's not that much difference in my opinion. I think AAdvantage is a better program than OnePass.
#9
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NYC
Posts: 27,231
However, trade-off is a lot more mileage-earning penalties within the OW alliance. At least with CO on *A, there are only a select few fare classes on a handful of partners that don't earn 100% RDM/EQM. I just noticed that JL "I" fares only earn 55% base miles/EQMs (+ 25% bonus miles), and while EQPs are still 1.5x, the 55% means you're only earning 82.5% effective EQPs per mile flown.
But I would say AA at the top tier is a significantly better program than CO/UA.
So the real AAdvantages of EXP over CO 100k Plat are the international F lounges, the additional 4 SWUs and probably a slightly better upgrade success rate. Perhaps the EXP desk, but I find generally great agents on the CO elite desk too.
These AAdvantages are mitigated by better partner award availability, fewer partner mileage-earning penalties, confirmed flight change and better exit row availability on CO. Of course who knows what will change with the eventual merger of OnePass and MileagePlus, but for now the comparison is better than people think.
#10
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: IAH
Programs: AA EXP, CO PLAT, SPG Gold
Posts: 205
I think also worthy of note is the difference in benefits you can extend to travel companions. I say this because I am and have been an EXP the last two years and am also a CO PLAT this year. I fly a lot with my wife and rarely alone, and have noticed that CO's companion upgrades are far less generous than AA's--with AA you can extend your status to a companion pre-gate, ie, as far out as your own upgrade might clear. With CO, it's 2 hours before flight only. Period. So, if you're traveling a lot with non-status people with whom you would like to be sitting (up front), then AA offers that as a superior benefit. And just for reference, I have yet to have a companion upgrade clear on CO--just too many silvers in the CO system...