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videomaker Aug 1, 10 1:16 pm


Originally Posted by Hyperacusis (Post 14402086)
The airline can set limits on how long VOIP conversations can last, and ask the FAs to enforce it.

So, how many pax are on a typical flight? How many stopwatches would the FAs need to time the calls?

That would never work.

AAerSTL Aug 1, 10 3:27 pm


Originally Posted by Hyperacusis (Post 14402086)
The airline can set limits on how long VOIP conversations can last, and ask the FAs to enforce it.

No chance. APFA members would need to receive a commission for each conversation they enforce...

Hyperacusis Aug 1, 10 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by videomaker (Post 14403108)
So, how many pax are on a typical flight? How many stopwatches would the FAs need to time the calls?

That would never work.

I still doubt that many passengers would pay for it, just to use VOIP. Most pax don't even know that VOIP is not allowed, and they don't pay for it.

I would also think that the general sentiment expressed on this thread towards phone conversations in flight (i.e. I don't want to disturb others/I don't want to be disturbed) isn't something exclusive to FT. I am willing to bet that there are a good amount of Kettles out there who would be willing to be courteous about it, or tell the pax next to them to shut up if said pax was being obnoxious about it.

Just like any other loud person on a flight.

videomaker Aug 1, 10 4:06 pm


Originally Posted by Hyperacusis (Post 14403748)
I still doubt that many passengers would pay for it, just to use VOIP. Most pax don't even know that VOIP is not allowed, and they don't pay for it.

So are you still saying this is a workable suggestion or not?


Originally Posted by Hyperacusis (Post 14402086)
The airline can set limits on how long VOIP conversations can last, and ask the FAs to enforce it.


Hyperacusis Aug 1, 10 4:14 pm

It is just as workable as asking an FA to quieten down an entire cabin where everyone is being obnoxiously loud. You rarely see a plane where everyone is being that loud. When people are, I have had success with either directly talking to them myself, or asking an FA to intervene. I see no reason this wouldn't work for VOIP.

videomaker Aug 1, 10 4:22 pm


Originally Posted by Hyperacusis (Post 14402086)
The airline can set limits on how long VOIP conversations can last, and ask the FAs to enforce it.

At the risk of sounding repititious, you still haven't shown how FAs could time and police the length of VOIP calls.


Originally Posted by Hyperacusis (Post 14403873)
It is just as workable as asking an FA to quieten down an entire cabin where everyone is being obnoxiously loud. You rarely see a plane where everyone is being that loud. When people are, I have had success with either directly talking to them myself, or asking an FA to intervene. I see no reason this wouldn't work for VOIP.


Hyperacusis Aug 1, 10 4:39 pm

They don't have to. I see nothing wrong an airline stating something along the lines of: "The length of in-flight phone calls should be limited out of courtesy to other passengers. If the cabin crew determines that excessive use of in-flight calling is causing a cabin disruption, they may ask you to hang up."

Or something along those lines. There doesn't have to be a hard limit - just a general guideline. Leave it up to the crew. You have to do what they tell you anyhow.

mikew99 Aug 1, 10 4:50 pm


Originally Posted by brp (Post 14399001)
VoIP is annoying.

VOIP is not annoying. Loud talkers are annoying. And they don't need VOIP for that.

I think any rules against VOIP are misguided. Why not just ban all loud conversation and/or noise? That would take care of lots of common in-flight irritations rather than the rare VOIP one.

emma dog Aug 1, 10 4:53 pm

At this point, what does this have to do with AA? DL and others have more extensive GoGo deployments and this is an issue faced by all airlines.

Hyperacusis Aug 1, 10 5:40 pm


Originally Posted by mikew99 (Post 14404031)
VOIP is not annoying. Loud talkers are annoying. And they don't need VOIP for that.

I think any rules against VOIP are misguided. Why not just ban all loud conversation and/or noise? That would take care of lots of common in-flight irritations rather than the rare VOIP one.

+1

jeffreyt Aug 1, 10 6:01 pm

Oh please, people, AA has gogo for years (yes, years), and this has been discussed repeadedly in many threads. What's the purpose of it continuing?

videomaker Aug 1, 10 6:30 pm


Originally Posted by jeffreyt (Post 14404326)
Oh please, people, AA has gogo for years (yes, years), and this has been discussed repeadedly in many threads. What's the purpose of it continuing?

+1. I believe the OP's question was answered long ago.

AAce_Inthe_O Aug 1, 10 8:11 pm

I was on a flight last week from MEX and a fellow passenger in first was using Skype or just type of video conference with his wife and child. He had a built in webcam and was turning it around to show his wife the entire plane. I have to say I was a bit surprised as it was not very private but the FA didn't seem to mind at all.

tfjim Aug 1, 10 9:08 pm


Originally Posted by mikew99 (Post 14404031)
VOIP is not annoying. Loud talkers are annoying. And they don't need VOIP for that.

Exactly, of course.

I used to love using the inflight in-the-armrest telephones to make quick calls. This was several years ago of course but there was simply nothing better than speaking to your secretary as the takeoff roll was commencing to confirm a few details during the climb out. Great stuff....


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