Am I the only one who hates AA 777 business class middle seat? (2-3-2)
Jul 28, 2010, 3:06 pm
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Am I the only one who hates AA 777 business class middle seat? (2-3-2)
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Jul 28, 2010, 3:11 pm
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You are definately not the only one.
It's a slap in the face and temporary imprisonment for the pax who pays $$$$ for a J fare and then gets stuck in the middle and in my opinion a real "DOH" for AA.
It's a slap in the face and temporary imprisonment for the pax who pays $$$$ for a J fare and then gets stuck in the middle and in my opinion a real "DOH" for AA.
Jul 28, 2010, 3:15 pm
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IMO really just depends on if you're traveling with the people on either side of you.
Jul 28, 2010, 3:18 pm
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Can you get a better price?
Jul 28, 2010, 3:19 pm
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Not that I'm a Saint, but I always make the extra effort to make sure that my neighbor in the middle knows that they must simply not worry about me and let me know if they want to get up whether I'm asleep or not.
Jul 28, 2010, 3:43 pm
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Everyone dislikes them, I believe. Of course, I'd rather take the last middle seat remaining than have the best exit row seat in Y. Also some airlines have 8 abreast in J (BA, for example--although BA's J seat is far superior to AA's IMHO), so 7 abreast with a single middle seat in and of itself isn't all that bad.
Jul 28, 2010, 3:53 pm
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Even friends may dislike the "trap" middle seat when everyone is asleep or involved and middle seat occupant must head to the lav, etc. whether it is an AA 777 or a QF 747.
OTOH, it's better than c-c- c..., er, cccc..., ah, coach, there, I said it!
Not to mention many coach cabins have a greater percentage of middle seats, like QF 747 or A380 or BA 747, say, with 3-4-3 seating "sardine class" 
OTOH, it's better than c-c- c..., er, cccc..., ah, coach, there, I said it!
Not to mention many coach cabins have a greater percentage of middle seats, like QF 747 or A380 or BA 747, say, with 3-4-3 seating "sardine class"
Jul 28, 2010, 4:02 pm
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Even friends may dislike the "trap" middle seat when everyone is asleep or involved and middle seat occupant must head to the lav, etc. whether it is an AA 777 or a QF 747.
OTOH, it's better than c-c- c..., er, cccc..., ah, coach, there, I said it! Not to mention many coach cabins have a greater percentage of middle seats, like QF 747 or A380 or BA 747, say, with 3-4-3 seating "sardine class"
OTOH, it's better than c-c- c..., er, cccc..., ah, coach, there, I said it!
Not to mention many coach cabins have a greater percentage of middle seats, like QF 747 or A380 or BA 747, say, with 3-4-3 seating "sardine class" I was fortunate enough to be granted a middle seat in 3-4-3 on a Japan Airlines 777 while flying within Japan. That was a real treat. I still get backpains just thinking about that trip.
Jul 28, 2010, 4:06 pm
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That may be why I only mentioned the 747s I have had more or less recent experience with - BA and QF, neither of which was comfortable, though I have to credit QF with being less comfortable - and on 12+ hour flights, rather than intra-Japan flights. Good to now there may be some relatively comfortable Y seats out there - though I'll continue in my striving for J or higher (well, I guess PE, WT+ or E+ might do under some circumstances...)
Jul 28, 2010, 4:36 pm
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Absolutely. If you're with friends/family then you're in better shape. If either side are strangers then it's slightly different.
Not that I'm a Saint, but I always make the extra effort to make sure that my neighbor in the middle knows that they must simply not worry about me and let me know if they want to get up whether I'm asleep or not.
Not that I'm a Saint, but I always make the extra effort to make sure that my neighbor in the middle knows that they must simply not worry about me and let me know if they want to get up whether I'm asleep or not.
Jul 28, 2010, 4:50 pm
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I was once asked (NRT-LAX) while sitting in 10G (aisle) by my seatmate in 10E (middle) if I would change with his buddy in 11E so they could sit together. Normally I do change if it's reasonable but this was kind of pushing it, and he was kind of indignant when I said no.
After dinner I had a change of heart and agreed to switch since I was planning to sleep the rest of the flight anyway. Maybe I get half an air karma point for that, I don't know.
After dinner I had a change of heart and agreed to switch since I was planning to sleep the rest of the flight anyway. Maybe I get half an air karma point for that, I don't know.
Jul 28, 2010, 4:56 pm
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It competes very well with UA, which is currently installing new 2-4-2 J-class seating on its 777s. Yes, that is correct, 2-4-2. Must be very narrow seats indeed on UA.
Jul 28, 2010, 4:56 pm
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I have never had a problem climbing over someone in the aisle seat even when they are in sleep mode without waking them. It helps to have long legs though…
Jul 28, 2010, 5:05 pm
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Jul 28, 2010, 6:59 pm
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Is there anyone who actually selects the middle seat when any other is available in J?
The 2-3-2 configuration is the biggest reason I dislike the 777 on the FRA-DFW route -- and the reason I'm unhappy with AA's change of FRA-ORD to seasonal status. The 763 may be a bit long-in-the-tooth but it's 2-2-2 and mostly provides a better J product given its two-class set-up. IMHO, of course.
Alka
The 2-3-2 configuration is the biggest reason I dislike the 777 on the FRA-DFW route -- and the reason I'm unhappy with AA's change of FRA-ORD to seasonal status. The 763 may be a bit long-in-the-tooth but it's 2-2-2 and mostly provides a better J product given its two-class set-up. IMHO, of course.
Alka