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Old Apr 2, 2010, 5:33 pm
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Originally Posted by zman
OK, agreed, u are right, I think u broke the formula rule, if it is a check digit.
I don't think a good check-digit formula would include multiplication by a fixed number, since that would reduce the number of possible check digits.
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 5:39 pm
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Maybe some should write and ask AA. One of three things will happen:

A. The will get an actual answer.
2. The answer will be "Gee, I don't know.
Γ. The black helicopters will circle the questioners house.

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Old Apr 2, 2010, 5:39 pm
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Originally Posted by brp
doesn't matter what's in the other piles as long as they're of equal size (magnitude). And, yes, zero is a valid magnitude.
That's a bit of a stretch, IMHO. Zero is more of a binary condition (something/nothing) than an order of magnitude.
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 5:42 pm
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Originally Posted by vasantn
I don't think a good check-digit formula would include multiplication by a fixed number, since that would reduce the number of possible check digits.
You do remember what company we're talking about, right? Whatever the formula, it was devised in the era of form-fed impact printers.
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 5:46 pm
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Originally Posted by dayone
That's a bit of a stretch, IMHO. Zero is more of a binary condition (something/nothing) than an order of magnitude.
Not at all. Vector arithmetic, for example, measures both magnitude and angle. A zero-length vector is completely defined, although the angle is ambiguous. Zero is, in continuous functions, a perfectly valid magnitude. It also has application in binary ("digital") systems where there is zero and "not zero," but we're talking about the set of integers.

If you wanted a continuous measure of, say, velocity, you'd want to know how fast it is actually going as opposed to "it's moving or not moving." Unless you're standing in front of it

As an "order of magnitude" zero represents "ten to the power zero" which is identically '1', and is usually used as a scale factor. But that's a separate discussion.

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Old Apr 2, 2010, 5:52 pm
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Originally Posted by ESpen36
(Note that, originally, AAdvantage numbers had numerical characters only. Then, around the early 90s, they started using three letters followed by four numbers. Nowadays, it's a random combination of numbers and letters, but, as we both seem to have noticed, they always end in an even number.)
My AAdvantage number is from the mid 1980's and doesn't follow either pattern. It follows the AB12346 pattern, the last digit being even. My first ff enrollment was with TWA soon after it started in 1981. United was a few months later. I lost about 3,000 miles in Eastern. I couldn't find my number to try to merge it with Continental.
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 5:53 pm
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Originally Posted by brp
if you wanted it to be concrete

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A zero-length vector is completely defined
Defined? Yes. But you used the word "concrete." I wouldn't describe a zero-length vector as concrete.
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 6:17 pm
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 6:21 pm
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The last digit is a checksum digit based on multiplying other numbers by "2". Obviously the last digit must be an even number.
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 6:24 pm
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Originally Posted by TravelersWife
Family of 5: 2,2,4,6,8.
family of 4: 8, 8, 0, 0
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 6:54 pm
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I got my number a few weeks after the Aadvantage program started and my number ends with a 6.

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Old Apr 2, 2010, 7:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Skylink USA
My AAdvantage number is from the mid 1980's and doesn't follow either pattern. It follows the AB12346 pattern, the last digit being even. My first ff enrollment was with TWA soon after it started in 1981. United was a few months later. I lost about 3,000 miles in Eastern. I couldn't find my number to try to merge it with Continental.
That's because the pattern described is inaccurate (or at least substantially incomplete enough to be pointless).

My number ends in 8.
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 7:45 pm
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I've got an email in. This year will be my last as ExPlat, so might as well make good use of customer service while they still love me.

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Old Apr 2, 2010, 7:55 pm
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Maybe:

Dear AAdvantage(r) Member,

We have received your AAdvantage inquiry and are eager to respond.
Although we are working hard to answer each message as quickly and
thoroughly as possible, please be aware that you may experience a delay
as lengthy as 15 business days due to extremely heavy email volume. We
regret the inconvenience and appreciate your patience.

In the meantime, we invite you to visit our Web site at
aa.com/aadvantage for general program information. If you need
immediate assistance with your AAdvantage account, AAdvantage Customer
Service may also be reached at 800-882-8880 between the weekday hours of
7:30 AM - 9:00 PM Central Time (or 7:30-7:00 Saturday / 10:30-7:00
Sunday). Or, if you find that your questions fall under another
department's area of expertise, please feel free to contact that
department directly. For your convenience, a contact list for our
departments is available on our Web site at www.aa.com (select 'Contact
AA').




Originally Posted by mikeef
I've got an email in. This year will be my last as ExPlat, so might as well make good use of customer service while they still love me.

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Old Apr 2, 2010, 8:24 pm
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Originally Posted by emma dog
The last digit is a checksum digit based on multiplying other numbers by "2". Obviously the last digit must be an even number.
As I said earlier, it makes absolutely no sense from a logical, mathematical or technical standpoint to have a general multiplier of 2 in the checksum formula. All it does is make your check digit half as reliable.
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