Originally Posted by JohnWM
(Post 12870736)
I fly on my own dime, and when & where I please. In that regard, I realize that I am unlike most posters on this thread.
My sense of it is that the AAdvantage program has deteriorated due to two serious failings: the troubling lack of partners and the recent removal of the stopover privilege from award travel. Because of these failings, I see the AAdvantage program as worth perhaps a 'C'. A few years ago I would have said an 'A'. Many earlier posters on different threads here at FlyerTalk have said it succinctly down through the years: the frequent flyer programs are simply bribes to accept inferior service. She said pretty much the same thing. The AA flights were dirtier and service was better on DL. She has no AA status, but racks up quite a few miles on her Citibank AA card. Also, on the SJC-SNA route, which I have flown 40 flights on this year, only one twice was I ever offered anything for being EXP, and had I not read about the free drinks/snacks on FT, I would be clueless about this benefit on AE. I haven't had a mainline flight in Y since the change for mainline flights, but I hope it is better implemented than what I have seen on Eagle.... That said, bring AE back to SJC-SNA. I need the miles :) AA had my business largely due to the FF benefits. However, there is a lot of work to be done, apart from FF benefits, if they want to be competitive. WN has listened and has changes to their FF program. The one I noticed most is the A-List. This avoids the previous hassle of checking in 24 hours in advance, for people who do 32 segments per year or more. If WN started going International, or had seat assignments, I would be more likely to fly them. AA... if you are listening... It might be beneficial to keep the SNA AC open for people on WN and other flights, and to maybe advertise your club to non-AA flyers. The AC at SNA is convenient to WN..The one in SJC is going to be convenient to JetBlue passengers when they move in to Term A on Dec 3. As it stands now, you are losing one member on Dec 31, as most of my flying NOT on this route, is international, and I don't need AC membership for that. |
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+ Ability to use SWU on all fares + General abundance of available reward space (compared to other programs) + Unique reward options (i.e. OneWorld Awards with mileage bands) - Co-pays on upgrades - Ticketing fees even if itinerary not able to be booked online (partner redemption) |
Originally Posted by fixedwingflyer
(Post 12879754)
For the discount-fare pax, AAdvantage is an excellent program. One can upgrade the cheapest fares (sometimes as low as double digits). What more can one ask for than a first class seat for a $95 fare and a few earned 500-mile stickers? ...
1-- I have only flown in AA Y on two segments in the past 4 years (those when I was PLT), that's out of roughly 110 segments, so >98% upgrade rate. This is waaay better than the ratio for my UAMP 1K colleagues. 2-- Mrs.G and I have used AA miles for several int'l vacation trips to Italy, France, Africa, Australia, and many domestic destinations with relatively little "wheeling and dealing" with AA to get the award tix. 3-- the EXP line can't be beat by any other program, esp. when it comes to irrops situations! ...so, the bottom line for me is aadvantage get an "A"^ (it would be A+ if we could book awards with OW partners online at aa.com) p.s. I have so far recruited 5 colleagues into aadvantage PLT status via challenge. One will achieve EXP status for the first time next month. |
I'd give it an A. The customer service reps are outstanding.
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AA Advantage Cut Value in HALF
I hope I'm misunderstanding the changes in AA's Advantage Program, because it seems to me that they have HALVED the value of the miles this year and no one noticed. People are too busy complimenting the improvements: new one-way booking simplicity, great on line booking system, easy (though costly) upgrades etc.
I've been with Advantage for more than 10 years and would have given them an A+ grade, until this month when I tried to book a flight (which I have done at least once or twice EVERY year for >5years) for my mother to come from Trinidad to Los Angeles to visit me. That used to cost 35,000 miles ROUND-TRIP, but now with one-way booking, it will cost 70,000 miles (economy) round trip, because the identical award is now good for just ONE-WAY. That's more than it used to cost for even a First Class round trip. I pay costly annual credit card fees just to accumulate Advantage miles. I consider it deceitful to change the value of the miles so drastically without explicitly informing members. The program slips to a C grade this year for me, even with the great new on line booking system. |
Originally Posted by GabbyB
(Post 12883749)
That used to cost 35,000 miles ROUND-TRIP, but now with one-way booking, it will cost 70,000 miles (economy) round trip, because the identical award is now good for just ONE-WAY.
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Originally Posted by tom911
(Post 12884046)
Appears you're looking at an Anytime award (70K RT) versus a Milesaver Peak award which is still 35,000 miles RT. AA can restrict availability for those 35K awards. Have you looked at flexing your date to get a 35K award?
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For my particular flying patterns and desired outcomes, I rate AA Program as an A. And that is without setting foot (or butt) in an AA aircraft this year, while requalifying EXP status this coming Sunday lunch time.
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I would rate the program A! I like the following aspects in particular:
All miles count toward lifetime status. Customer service is almost always excellent. Very good award availability |
Also on 'A' from moi - or as we say in Canada, an "eh"!
I had the misfortune of changing airlines from AA to Air Canada (AC) in 2008 and was a 'Super-elite' (SE) with AC in late 08' and 09' - due to flying patterns. anywho, the SE is their equivalent of EXP and it is truly a joke. I was upgraded less than 40% with them and one pays much higher fares. I switched back to AA in March 09' and made EXP in October. I have been upgraded 100% so far with AA and the service is great. For me, AA is a far superior product for their FF's. |
It's nice to see a fellow Canadian with a similar viewpoint^ and I could've went for AC Elite the last 2 yrs, thanks for proving my viewpoint billbarilko
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In general: B+
Before I started travelling in 2006 I carefully studies FT for my supposed travel pattern and chose oneworld with BA. I have switched over to AA completly for my tatl travel 2-4 times a year because of the miles earning potential as well as the awards, the good enough Y class and additional perks in the AAvantage programm. Extra Plus: Fa are way more friendly in Y and J than their BA colleagues (although older, but I rather take friendly and service oriented over 'younger to look at') Although I am always hoping for my upgrade I do not expect it and am very pleased with the way they treat the passengers. Minus - usually no check in possible via online due to BA / AA problem - german website does not allow what the american does - all offerings are made based up flights through Fra although for me going through LHR is a much better option - I do read english. I see the offerings for the american market and more often than not they are only limited to that although they would not hurt in offering them as well to European flyers. Sum: B- because of the German market problem |
I'd give Aadvantage a B+.
I particularly like:
I think improvements could be made to:
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Pros: easy to redeem. Customer service very helpful. Stickers are nice. Upgrades are reasonably available. Easy to earn miles. Lots of promos. It does everything I need to do. I can't complain. Cons: its easy to always say I could use more perks so I'll leave it a - to all the things everyone else has mentioned. One con is that miles don't post right after a flight which is a bit outdated. |
From this PLT who will be EXP next week:
A rock solid A-. Pros: Generally excellent and professional service across the board. Some FA's could be friendlier, but mostly I just want to be dealt with in a straightforward and aboveboard manner, and I get that from AA. The GA in MSP for my recent FRA MR is a case in point: I was late for my 7:20 am flight, got on standby for the next plane out; with 25 available seats in Y, the GA had my boarding pass ready before I got to the gate. Another example: on a very full 763 FRA-ORD, the only empty seat I could see in coach was between me and another PLT doing an MR himself, which made the flight much more comfy. What can be better: 1) Flights to/from Beijing on AA metal. This would save me $250 or more every time I go visit my GF in China, either I fly into Beijing directly, and fly her down from Shenyang, or spend a weekend in Shanghai then fly up to Dalian to be with her. Either way, I save $$$. 2) An OW partner in China that flies to all the cities I like there: Chengdu, Dalian, Hangzhou, Hainan, etc, so I can get AA miles for all my domestic segments in China. Maybe China Eastern. 3) Free wifi across for everyone in the AC. C'mon, I have *never* been in any other OW lounge that didn't offer free wifi. There's no excuse for this at all. At the AC in FRA, T-mobile wanted 8 Euros for 60 minutes of access, so I walked over to the JAL lounge in Terminal 2 and got 2 hours of wifi for free. ACs should ditch T-mobile like the overpriced garbage it is. |
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