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Old Nov 30, 2012, 8:39 pm
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Exception Policy See Wiki page

Historically, there has been an unofficial exception policy for members who come close to qualifying, but don't quite make it. Note that you cannot request an exception before the end of the qualifying year and by then it is too late to fly more if the exception is not granted. The Exception Policy can change at any time; please read posts #100 and #104 for anecdotal information historic exceptions may not be granted this year.

The automatic exceptions have been as follows in previous years:
  • 24,500 miles or points for Gold Status
  • 49,000 miles or points for Platinum Status
  • 99,000 miles or points for Executive Platinum Status
For reports in previous years, read posts AFTER Jan 1 in:

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Old Oct 3, 2012, 8:32 pm
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"Grace" for elite status if EQM, EQP or EQS short in 2012? (Status exception)

Hi, I think I will be 600 miles short of reaching 100K miles to become EXP.
Do you guys know if AA is sometimes flexible?
I am a million miler and I got EXP just once (with some great bonus offers when I was heavily traveling) but I usually can never make it again and I am always stuck at PLT.
Thanks

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This question has been answered in the Wiki, here (which is why we recommend checking the FAQ and the Wiki).

Though AA has granted status requalification exceptions previously, this is an undocumented benefit - it is not guaranteed annually. The only way to guaranteed status requalification is to requalify.

The Wiki says (sic):

Exception Policy

There is an unofficial exception policy for members who come close to qualifying, but don't quite make it. Note that you cannot request an exception before the end of the qualifying year and by then it is too late to fly more if the exception is not granted. The automatic exceptions have been as follows in previous years:
  • 24,500 miles or points for Gold Status
  • 49,000 miles or points for Platinum Status
  • 99,000 miles or points for Executive Platinum Status
There have also been older reports of manual exceptions to get Executive Platinum if the member has flown 95,000 miles and has accrued 90,000 points. You will have to call for a manual exception. (N.B.: Reports of this exception all date back to the early days of the points system, when only paid First and Business fares earned more than 1 point/mile. Since then the point/mile ratio has been liberalized, with all fares from B (slightly discounted economy) and up earning 1.5 points/mile. Six more heavily discounted economy fares now earn 1.0 point/mile. A 90/95 ratio of points to miles no longer indicates heavy spending as it once did. As of late 2008, nobody has reported obtaining an exception on this basis for years. There is excellent reason to doubt it still exists.)

The Exception Policy can change at any time.


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Old Oct 3, 2012, 8:34 pm
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I don't know if AA will "round up" to get you over your 600 mile shortfall, but if I were you, I'd fly somewhere in the next 90 days to ensure that you have 100k miles.
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 8:36 pm
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It's not worth taking a chance on not getting it!!
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 8:37 pm
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I was wondering with their bankruptcy and the recent mess with delays that they might be more flexible to their loyal customers and many may be leaving...
Thanks
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 8:43 pm
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In a year with a number of double miles promotions, I wouldn't take the chance. If you were 600 Points short, I'd say yes.

Cheers.
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 8:52 pm
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I'm confused by this question. It's October 3 today, not Dec 31. If you're in MA, you can fly 850 miles one-way on BOS-ORD for 90 bucks. Sounds like a problem you have plenty of time to solve with very little investment.
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 9:06 pm
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Originally Posted by mwk190
I'm confused by this question. It's October 3 today, not Dec 31. If you're in MA, you can fly 850 miles one-way on BOS-ORD for 90 bucks. Sounds like a problem you have plenty of time to solve with very little investment.
- or MIA-RDU for $83 ai one-way (700 miles). You upgrade on the way back will be free (but you would have to call EXP desk to get your deducted stickers back). Finally, what is the point of being EXP and not enjoying it!
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by davidmiami
Do you guys know if AA is sometimes flexible?
AA has been flexible in the past to some people in some situations. But that's not relevant to you. You need to know if they'll give you EXP without actually earning it. It would be foolish to rely on their possible generosity, when you could easy earn it yourself in the next few months.
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 10:16 pm
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Not sure why you would ask this question with 3 months to go. You don't plan to fly anywhere in the next 3 months, after flying 99,400 already? My answer to your question (and if i were in your shoes) would be no.
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 10:20 pm
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You can fly BOS-JFK-BOS in less than 4 hours from departure from BOS to arrival back at BOS for $120 ai. It gets you 1,000 EQM (since you are PLT and get the 500-mile minimum).
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 10:24 pm
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Originally Posted by wandertheglobe
Not sure why you would ask this question with 3 months to go. You don't plan to fly anywhere in the next 3 months, after flying 99,400 already? My answer to your question (and if i were in your shoes) would be no.
That's not what the OP said:

Originally Posted by davidmiami
Hi, I think I will be 600 miles short of reaching 100K miles to become EXP.
[emphasis mine]
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 11:05 pm
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Originally Posted by cynicAAl
AA has been flexible in the past to some people in some situations. But that's not relevant to you. You need to know if they'll give you EXP without actually earning it. It would be foolish to rely on their possible generosity, when you could easy earn it yourself in the next few months.
No quite accurate because AA has consistently applied an unpublished policy in the past. The problem is that just because they did it in the past, doesn't mean they will do it this year -- even though the chances of them abandoning the policy are slim.

For GLDs, you need to be over 24,500 EQM/EQP to be granted status.
For PLTs, you need to be over 49,000 EQM/EQP to be granted status.
Foe EXPs, you need to be over 99,000 EQM/EQP to be granted status.
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 11:31 pm
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Why leave it to chance? Find the cheapest ticket where you can get the miles and then enjoy your EXP status.

This is the one situation where I think a mileage run is appropriate.
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Old Oct 4, 2012, 12:00 am
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Originally Posted by sukn
No quite accurate because AA has consistently applied an unpublished policy in the past. The problem is that just because they did it in the past, doesn't mean they will do it this year -- even though the chances of them abandoning the policy are slim.

For GLDs, you need to be over 24,500 EQM/EQP to be granted status.
For PLTs, you need to be over 49,000 EQM/EQP to be granted status.
Foe EXPs, you need to be over 99,000 EQM/EQP to be granted status.
expecting AA to honor some unpublished benefit, just because they've done it in the past is full of unnecessary risk. An unpublished policy is not a policy at all.
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Old Oct 4, 2012, 12:17 am
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Originally Posted by cynicAAl
expecting AA to honor some unpublished benefit, just because they've done it in the past is full of unnecessary risk. An unpublished policy is not a policy at all.
As an EXP, you've benefited from plenty of unpublished policies so it is just really silly for you to make that statement.

You made a statement that was not fully accurate. I simply clarified. Move on.
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