New Service to OKC
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New Service to OKC
Hp announced today that they will initiate service to OKC from PHX and LAS. Press release here:
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....790&highlight=
Great move for HP, even if the flights will be on CRJs.
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....790&highlight=
Great move for HP, even if the flights will be on CRJs.
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Good addition to the route. I wish they'd add Tulsa service as well.
Southwest offers a non-stop there currently. While I hate flying Southwest, at least there is a non-stop option. Other than that, it's an inconvenient stop in DFW, IAH, SLC or DEN.
Southwest offers a non-stop there currently. While I hate flying Southwest, at least there is a non-stop option. Other than that, it's an inconvenient stop in DFW, IAH, SLC or DEN.
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While I was initially excited to see this new service, I agree Tulsa would have been much more convenient for me with my customers and also their flight times...oh great....one now has to spend at least one night and can't make a day trip. Looks like another winner schedule ala MSY. Woo Who HP
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Originally Posted by ByrdluvsAWACO
While I'm no Oklahoma fan and can't understand why anyone would want to go/live there, I'm glad HP is covering this hole in their network.
Good job HP, though. ^
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yeah, that 3:30 looks like a pain. but shoot, it's vegas.
yeah, it's RJ service here and i think this will help the fare competition to all west coast destinations with the legacies and southwest.
welcome to OKC!
yeah, it's RJ service here and i think this will help the fare competition to all west coast destinations with the legacies and southwest.
welcome to OKC!
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Originally Posted by ByrdluvsAWACO
While I'm no Oklahoma fan and can't understand why anyone would want to go/live there, I'm glad HP is covering this hole in their network.
A lot of west coasters say that. But ask many people who live in Tulsa and they'll say there's no place like it for them. I've hit 63 cities over the last 2 years and I'd still love to settle down in Tulsa. I'm in OKC right now and, well, that's a different story. OKC's alright and you can definitely tell it's growth is continuous; but this is a fine example of urban sprawl. Norman, The University of Oklahoma's town, is now theoretically a suburb of OKC. There used to be about 20 minutes of just open fields on the side of the highway.
Give it a try before you throw out a statement like that.
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Being an HP employee, all I can say its about time HP had some kind of Oklahoma service. A couple of years back when I work at the res. office I get paxs from time to time asking about flying to TUL or OKC. I always told paxs ICT or DFW was the closet HP gets to OK. Although, back when HP was in bed in Continental we would book paxs to TUL/OKC on a codeshare flight via IAH.
Its my guest that HP decided to try OKC instead of TUL due to fact that WN has nonstops already to TUL from PHX. It would be more difficult for HP to try to compete head to head with WN because this has been an "established" route for WN (they already has a strong presence in TUL). Furthermore, in HP's view, TUL (or OKC) does not have enough market share traffic to 2 LCC airlines to compete on this route. So OKC is the next best alternative for HP. Perhaps if OKC is proven it can do well, maybe in time HP will add TUL.
Its my guest that HP decided to try OKC instead of TUL due to fact that WN has nonstops already to TUL from PHX. It would be more difficult for HP to try to compete head to head with WN because this has been an "established" route for WN (they already has a strong presence in TUL). Furthermore, in HP's view, TUL (or OKC) does not have enough market share traffic to 2 LCC airlines to compete on this route. So OKC is the next best alternative for HP. Perhaps if OKC is proven it can do well, maybe in time HP will add TUL.
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Originally Posted by skyfly
Its my guest that HP decided to try OKC instead of TUL due to fact that WN has nonstops already to TUL from PHX. It would be more difficult for HP to try to compete head to head with WN because this has been an "established" route for WN (they already has a strong presence in TUL). Furthermore, in HP's view, TUL (or OKC) does not have enough market share traffic to 2 LCC airlines to compete on this route. So OKC is the next best alternative for HP. Perhaps if OKC is proven it can do well, maybe in time HP will add TUL.
Would you rather take a 50 seat CRJ or a 737 on Southwest?
Thank goodness I don't go to OKC because the RJ flight would not be fun.
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Originally Posted by ByrdluvsAWACO
While I'm no Oklahoma fan and can't understand why anyone would want to go/live there, I'm glad HP is covering this hole in their network.
Originally Posted by SDLFlyer
Southwest flies from OKC to PHX three times a day non-stop and four from OKC on Sunday's. Would you rather take a 50 seat CRJ or a 737 on Southwest? Thank goodness I don't go to OKC because the RJ flight would not be fun.
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Originally Posted by ByrdluvsAWACO
While I'm no Oklahoma fan and can't understand why anyone would want to go/live there, I'm glad HP is covering this hole in their network.
It will never be New York, but it does have a certain charm that is starting to draw more people to it.
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Originally Posted by SoonerJedi
I really don't see the difference...are the seats any smaller on an RJ than on a mainline plane? From my understanding, there are just fewer of them. When i fly, my face is plastered to the window anyway, so I don't care if there are 50 seats or 250.
BTW, you are an excellent writer. I hope that you are able to use those skills in your chosen vocation.
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Actually America West flew to Oklahoma before.... back in 1983/84. Service to both Oklahoma City and Tulsa... routes included PHX-OKC/TUL, OKC-TUL, ABQ-OKC, ABQ-TUL.