Avoid F CDG-NRT on Oct 8th!
Aug 28, 2007, 1:32 am
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Avoid F CDG-NRT on Oct 8th!
NH is using an old 747 on Oct 8th from CDG to NRT - tickets for F are a whopping 1,709,100 Yen... No discounts available... F is almost fully booked, I hope passengers are aware of what is expecting them...
Aug 28, 2007, 7:12 am
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Just curious: what is so bad about the old NH 747s? In F?
Aug 28, 2007, 8:34 pm
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Aug 28, 2007, 11:26 pm
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There are only 15 seats and even if full the service is superb.
If you really want something else for your money why not try AF and relate your experience....
Aug 29, 2007, 3:26 am
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And if you wanna see an airline that is able to handle 16 passengers in F, try LH on a 747...
Aug 29, 2007, 6:19 am
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I go with NH F for the service and food, which are the same on old/new seats. The only time I'd go away from NH is between their old and new C. I sleep so well on their old/new F seats--and eat and drink so well-that I rarely watch much IFE anyway.
And I think many here will agree, please go ahead and fly LH if you want--but those who can afford a million or more yen for a nonstop are unlikely to want a transfer in FRA/MUC. Plus, LH F doesn't offer pods on 744, does it? So how different is NH Old F to LH F?
NH must do something right to fill F with paid pax, while LH almost always has F available on their flights for reward tix.....just an observation.
Aug 29, 2007, 7:13 pm
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Hmm... for me, flat is flat. Old NH F=LH 744 F, as far as seats go. Side by side, too.
I go with NH F for the service and food, which are the same on old/new seats. The only time I'd go away from NH is between their old and new C. I sleep so well on their old/new F seats--and eat and drink so well-that I rarely watch much IFE anyway.
And I think many here will agree, please go ahead and fly LH if you want--but those who can afford a million or more yen for a nonstop are unlikely to want a transfer in FRA/MUC. Plus, LH F doesn't offer pods on 744, does it? So how different is NH Old F to LH F?
NH must do something right to fill F with paid pax, while LH almost always has F available on their flights for reward tix.....just an observation.
I go with NH F for the service and food, which are the same on old/new seats. The only time I'd go away from NH is between their old and new C. I sleep so well on their old/new F seats--and eat and drink so well-that I rarely watch much IFE anyway.
And I think many here will agree, please go ahead and fly LH if you want--but those who can afford a million or more yen for a nonstop are unlikely to want a transfer in FRA/MUC. Plus, LH F doesn't offer pods on 744, does it? So how different is NH Old F to LH F?
NH must do something right to fill F with paid pax, while LH almost always has F available on their flights for reward tix.....just an observation.
LH is no comparison to NH as far as customer care and service is concerned.
LH seats are also side by side
LH does not fly from CDG to NRT without a cumbersome transit in FRA or MUC
Aug 29, 2007, 7:19 pm
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I myself would prefer the new NH F over LH F at any point in time - it is a great product. But when you book a full-fare ticket on NH to Paris, you expect the new seat and not the old ones.
Aug 30, 2007, 8:29 pm
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Don't get your point: NH is not selling old F anymore - you get if for free when booked in C on regional flights in Asia.
I myself would prefer the new NH F over LH F at any point in time - it is a great product. But when you book a full-fare ticket on NH to Paris, you expect the new seat and not the old ones.
I myself would prefer the new NH F over LH F at any point in time - it is a great product. But when you book a full-fare ticket on NH to Paris, you expect the new seat and not the old ones.
Oct 10, 2007, 9:02 pm
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I have a CDG-NRT-CDG trip in December and would like to avoid the old seats .
Oct 11, 2007, 12:15 am
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Oct 11, 2007, 2:26 am
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On a side note my wife took that flight on the 10/08 and she confirmed that it was indeed the old configuration. She was flying in Y and she told me it was one of her worst experience with NH on a long haul flight.
Reasons being:
- Personal IFE not working. People were only able to watch two movies on their personal TV monitor, the same as the ones being projected on the main screen. I can't remember exactly, but AFAIR, even if the old config is not AVOD, you could at least select from different movies on different channels.
- Her status on NH grants her most of the time a Y+ seat, which is not available on the old config
- Food was presented on the old tray. Even if this doesn't change the taste, it does not look very appealing
- FA not as nice as usual, probably due to the fact that the old config holds more Y pax and made then busier than usual, added to the fact that a huge tour group was onboard.
Something to forget very quickly. I hope NH won't disapoint us in the future, but I can't say things are going in the right way, with the changes in their FFP and the recent decrease of the quality of the food service in C.
Regards,
Formoz
Reasons being:
- Personal IFE not working. People were only able to watch two movies on their personal TV monitor, the same as the ones being projected on the main screen. I can't remember exactly, but AFAIR, even if the old config is not AVOD, you could at least select from different movies on different channels.
- Her status on NH grants her most of the time a Y+ seat, which is not available on the old config
- Food was presented on the old tray. Even if this doesn't change the taste, it does not look very appealing
- FA not as nice as usual, probably due to the fact that the old config holds more Y pax and made then busier than usual, added to the fact that a huge tour group was onboard.
Something to forget very quickly. I hope NH won't disapoint us in the future, but I can't say things are going in the right way, with the changes in their FFP and the recent decrease of the quality of the food service in C.
Regards,
Formoz
