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NRT to HND, 3:30 transit time, 6:45 AM arrival. Qs?

NRT to HND, 3:30 transit time, 6:45 AM arrival. Qs?

Old Jun 13, 23, 8:33 am
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NRT to HND, 3:30 transit time, 6:45 AM arrival. Qs?

We are flying MEX-NRT/HND-DEL in January, all one ticket with 6:30AM arrival. Flying J so at least at front of plane. Have 3:30 to make self transfer, planning limousine bus. I assume we will get all BPs in MEX so just need to pass security, passport control and get to onward gate. If we miss the DEL flight its 24 hours until next one. What is ANAs policy on missed self transfer? Do they re-accommodate and provide hotel? If there are any schedule changes Ill probably change the ticket to overnight in Tokyo.
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Old Jun 13, 23, 11:23 am
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If you have checked bags, don't forget about the 1 hour cutoff at HND, which really means you only have 2.5 hours to make it from arrival at NRT to HND. This will be extremely tight with no room for error. Keep in mind this is the bare minimum MCT (3:30).

If you misconnect you'll be rebooked. But if your inbound is substantially late I'd probably try getting it sorted before leaving NRT, as it'd be evident that you won't make the connection anyway.
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Old Jun 14, 23, 6:34 am
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The current bus schedule is leaving Narita airport T1 at 7:00 (arriving Haneda T3 at 8:40), then 7:40 (arriving 9:20). If you are checking bags, it will be very difficult to make the first bus unless your flight is early, and the second bus arrives too late to check them in at Haneda.

Without checked bags making the 7:00 bus is more likely, and the 7:40 bus will be tight but probably okay too if there's no traffic.

January is far away though, so check both the bus schedule (here) and your flight schedule to see if it changes between now and then.
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Old Jun 14, 23, 2:12 pm
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Thanks! Excellent info, we are only doing carry on so unless they make us check the roll-a-boards we are in good shape. So if we arrive into HND on the bus past 9:30 we are probably not going to make a 10:15 departure? Not sure when ANA closes the doors nor how long it'll take to pass security, if necessary passport control. Really appreciate the link, hadn't found that site before.

Originally Posted by bpe
The current bus schedule is leaving Narita airport T1 at 7:00 (arriving Haneda T3 at 8:40), then 7:40 (arriving 9:20). If you are checking bags, it will be very difficult to make the first bus unless your flight is early, and the second bus arrives too late to check them in at Haneda.

Without checked bags making the 7:00 bus is more likely, and the 7:40 bus will be tight but probably okay too if there's no traffic.

January is far away though, so check both the bus schedule (here) and your flight schedule to see if it changes between now and then.
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Old Jun 14, 23, 4:58 pm
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Originally Posted by miket
Thanks! Excellent info, we are only doing carry on so unless they make us check the roll-a-boards we are in good shape. So if we arrive into HND on the bus past 9:30 we are probably not going to make a 10:15 departure? Not sure when ANA closes the doors nor how long it'll take to pass security, if necessary passport control. Really appreciate the link, hadn't found that site before.
ANA generally does not start boarding until 25-30 minutes before departure, so the door would close only shortly before departure. Security check at Haneda has been a bit if a mixed bag, sometimes hour long lines sometimes very smooth, though recently it has been getting into a generally good starts.
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Old Jun 14, 23, 6:00 pm
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Thanks, is there a fast track or J priority line at HND? I know I am totally overthinking this but do want to work out options since this is going to be close no matter how it goes.
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Old Jun 14, 23, 6:03 pm
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Originally Posted by miket
Thanks, is there a fast track or J priority line at HND? I know I am totally overthinking this but do want to work out options since this is going to be close no matter how it goes.
Currently there is no premium class fast track, there is a fast track for facial recognition, which requires to register at one of the kiosks. But last I checked your flight was not one of the ones that ANA offers this service for.
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Old Jun 14, 23, 6:05 pm
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Much appreciated. Sounds like we can do our best and prepare for options if that goes belly up.
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Old Jun 15, 23, 11:38 am
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I was going to have a minimum KIX/ITM transfer in April but somehow "thankfully" my inbound flight was delayed for an hour. The domestic ticketing counter at KIX helped me get rebooked from ITM-HND to KIX-HND. So problem solved and I could sit down and have lunch instead of desperately trying to get to the other side of Osaka.
Concurring with SilverChris, if any hiccough happens definitely get it sorted before you leave NRT. I don't know if the OP has an ANA-issued ticket and you would be rebooked automatically. Mine was a UA-issued ticket so I had to go to the ticketing counter and explain the situation, and the counter really appreciated that I had the itinerary printed out.
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Old Jun 15, 23, 1:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Agosti
I don't know if the OP has an ANA-issued ticket and you would be rebooked automatically. Mine was a UA-issued ticket so I had to go to the ticketing counter and explain the situation, and the counter really appreciated that I had the itinerary printed out.
Theoretically it shouldn't matter on the day of travel, as the operating carrier has control over the coupons. But I get that seemingly simple issues can often take a lot of resources to resolve in Japan...
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Old Jun 15, 23, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by SilverChris
Theoretically it shouldn't matter on the day of travel, as the operating carrier has control over the coupons. But I get that seemingly simple issues can often take a lot of resources to resolve in Japan...
All ANA ticket direct from airline no 3rd party. So at least thats not going to be the challenge. By solving at NRT am assuming that means go to counter not try to call. Here in US I generally never bother approaching at airport rather call the status line but I can see how that would be difficult in Japan.
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Old Jun 15, 23, 5:47 pm
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Originally Posted by miket
All ANA ticket direct from airline no 3rd party. So at least thats not going to be the challenge. By solving at NRT am assuming that means go to counter not try to call. Here in US I generally never bother approaching at airport rather call the status line but I can see how that would be difficult in Japan.
If your inbound is delayed enough to make your connection impossible, there will be ANA staff at the arrival gate with a sign with your name to let you know the details of what happens next.
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Old Jun 16, 23, 1:41 pm
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Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
If your inbound is delayed enough to make your connection impossible, there will be ANA staff at the arrival gate with a sign with your name to let you know the details of what happens next.
Thanks so much for all the excellent info. I feel much better armed to make this go as smoothly as possible.
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Old Jun 18, 23, 7:26 pm
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If things look like they're running late on the day you leave MEX, know what your options are ahead of time. You may have to get creative, such as exploring routings that transit SFO or LAX in order to get to HND directly (if you can transit the US). Alternatively, you may request NH to add a leg on OZ to ICN and fly from there, or be protected onto AI.
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Old Jun 22, 23, 7:32 am
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Honestly I would just stay the night in Japan. Too many things can go wrong with this.
I would find a room outside Haneda and tour around.
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