Why I cant redeem this multi-cities route
Hi,
I try to play around the ANA multi-cities route using miles. the dummy book date : 10/3/19 JFK - CTS (transfer in NRT/HND) 10/7/19 CTS - HKG (transfer in NRT/HND/KIX) 10/10/19 HKG - JFK (transfer in NRT/HND) I dont know why this is not bookable. but I tried this works : 10/3/19 JFK - KIX (transfer in NRT/HND) 10/7/19 KIX- HKG (direct) 10/10/19 HKG - JFK (transfer in NRT/HND) Can anyone give me some ideas? Thank you |
cannot pass the same transit point more than twice in a roundtrip/multicity journey.
JFK-HND(or NRT)-CTS-NRT-HKG-NRT-JFK violates this. JFK-HND(or NRT) -KIX-HKG-NRT-JFK doesnt (passes through HND/NRT only twice) This is to avoid a "round trip within a round trip" type of illegal booking (that would essentially be two separate tickets trying to be booked as one ticket. Read up more here. https://www.ana.co.jp/en/jp/amc/refe...d/tk/zone.html |
You can do
JFK-xNRT-CTS//KIX-HKG-xNRT-JFK 50000miles+28850JPY in Y. JFK-xNRT-CTS-xKIX-HKG-xNRT-JFK violates a rule that only TWO transfers within Japan. (This route has NRT,CTS,KIX). Under ANA rule, CTS//KIX is counted as one transfer (land segment). JFK-xTYO-CTS//TYO-HKG-xTYO-JFK is valid routing. You can pass through TYO twice. The rule says only 2. Connections cannot be made in the respective departure and destination points in the outbound and return journeys. However, because of web page problem, you have to call ANA. If an agent in US refused, call Japan :-) |
Originally Posted by Tokyoite
(Post 30777599)
Read up more here. https://www.ana.co.jp/en/jp/amc/refe...d/tk/zone.html
If OP uses only ANA flights, parner award rule can't be applied. Applicable rule is https://www.ana.co.jp/en/jp/amc/refe.../int/zone.html |
Originally Posted by Wasabi Tofu
(Post 30780667)
BTW, this rule is for ANA Partner Airline Flight Awards, not ANA International Flight Awards.
If OP uses only ANA flights, parner award rule can't be applied. Applicable rule is https://www.ana.co.jp/en/jp/amc/refe.../int/zone.html Example: [Tokyo]⇒[Sapporo]⇒[Tokyo]⇒[Frankfurt]⇒[Tokyo] Reason: The outbound journey passes through the first city (Tokyo) again, so this itinerary cannot be used with an award ticket. |
I tried and this works :
10/3/19 JFK - CTS (transfer in NRT/HND) 10/7/19 KIX - HKG (directly only) 10/10/19 HKG - JFK (transfer in NRT/HND) but can I do this? 10/3/19 JFK - CTS (transfer in NRT/HND) use ANA 10/5/19 CTS - KIX (use 5000 miles from UA) - separate ticket 10/7/19 KIX - HKG (directly only) use ANA 10/10/19 HKG - TPE (EVA) use ANA 10/14/19 TPE - JFK (EVA) use ANA |
So how hard to find C (business) seats (4 seats) in 1 time?
I thought the best is 2 seats opens at a time? |
Originally Posted by toni8284
(Post 30782878)
10/3/19 JFK - CTS (transfer in NRT/HND) use ANA
10/5/19 CTS - KIX (use 5000 miles from UA) - separate ticket 10/7/19 KIX - HKG (directly only) use ANA 10/10/19 HKG - TPE (EVA) use ANA 10/14/19 TPE - JFK (EVA) use ANA You have two (CTS//KIX, and TPE). So, you can't. |
Originally Posted by toni8284
(Post 30782893)
So how hard to find C (business) seats (4 seats) in 1 time?
I thought the best is 2 seats opens at a time? A blogger summarized its investigation in web page(In Japanese, but airport codes are indicated, you get some idea) https://www.uridayo.com/entry/award-avaialblity |
Thank you. Interesting.
Do anyone know for EVA ticket, how many days in advance that ticket can be redeem? 300 days? and how many seats opens up for business for the first time? JFK - TPE - HKG |
Eva ticket = Booked on ANA and flown on EVA? or booked on EVA?
If the former, same 330 days out (or earliest dates ANA MC allows). If the later, then wrong forum to post the question! |
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