Going for ANA status - does NH codeshare count towards ANA metal?
Oct 1, 2018, 9:37 am
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Going for ANA status - does NH codeshare count towards ANA metal?
To get 50K, I need 25K NH metal and 25K “any” Star.
I have an option of booking NRT-BOM direct or NRT-BKK-BOM, where the second option could be TG+TG or NH+TG (in all cases, on a NH flight # though).
If I book NH marketed, TG operated, will it count against the 25K NH metal requirement - or not? Also, will it get the +400 Premium point bonus per flight?
I have an option of booking NRT-BOM direct or NRT-BKK-BOM, where the second option could be TG+TG or NH+TG (in all cases, on a NH flight # though).
If I book NH marketed, TG operated, will it count against the 25K NH metal requirement - or not? Also, will it get the +400 Premium point bonus per flight?
Oct 1, 2018, 10:24 am
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Interesting question, because in the English answer to this question the term "mileage" is used, which has got to be mistranslated.
On the English page explaining premium points, it reads:
And the Japanese version of the same page:
I would translate this as:
When a code share flight operated and crewed by a Star Alliance member is reserved and boarded under an ANA flight number, the flight is eligible for accrual as a Star Alliance member airline flight.
Based on this, it seems that NH code shares will not count as ANA metal for the purpose of premium points.
On the English page explaining premium points, it reads:
ANA Code share flights operated by Star Alliance member reserved and board under an ANA flight number will accrual mileage as Star Alliance member airline flights.
スター アライアンス加盟航空会社の機材および乗務員で運航するコードシェア便を、ANA便名でご予約・ご搭乗の場 合は、スター アライアンス加盟航空会社運航便ご搭乗分として積算されます。
When a code share flight operated and crewed by a Star Alliance member is reserved and boarded under an ANA flight number, the flight is eligible for accrual as a Star Alliance member airline flight.
Based on this, it seems that NH code shares will not count as ANA metal for the purpose of premium points.
Oct 1, 2018, 3:44 pm
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To get 50K, I need 25K NH metal and 25K “any” Star.
I have an option of booking NRT-BOM direct or NRT-BKK-BOM, where the second option could be TG+TG or NH+TG (in all cases, on a NH flight # though).
If I book NH marketed, TG operated, will it count against the 25K NH metal requirement - or not? Also, will it get the +400 Premium point bonus per flight?
I have an option of booking NRT-BOM direct or NRT-BKK-BOM, where the second option could be TG+TG or NH+TG (in all cases, on a NH flight # though).
If I book NH marketed, TG operated, will it count against the 25K NH metal requirement - or not? Also, will it get the +400 Premium point bonus per flight?
ANA's miles and premium points are calculated based on operating carriers.
About boarding points(400points), 100% or above earning rate fare earns 400 points on partner operating flights.
In my experience, SA coded M class (ANA operated) HKG-HND was calculated as an ANA flight (U class), and route multiplier (x1.5) was applied.
Oct 1, 2018, 4:07 pm
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TG operating flights are counted as TG flights and TG booking class (usually, not same as you booking class on ANA), not ANA.
ANA's miles and premium points are calculated based on operating carriers.
About boarding points(400points), 100% or above earning rate fare earns 400 points on partner operating flights.
In my experience, SA coded M class (ANA operated) HKG-HND was calculated as an ANA flight (U class), and route multiplier (x1.5) was applied.
ANA's miles and premium points are calculated based on operating carriers.
About boarding points(400points), 100% or above earning rate fare earns 400 points on partner operating flights.
In my experience, SA coded M class (ANA operated) HKG-HND was calculated as an ANA flight (U class), and route multiplier (x1.5) was applied.
So it’s the opposite of how Oneworld works. I should then look for the cheapest fare marketed by whoever but operated by NH and I should be able to get my required flight mileage. Thanks!
Oct 1, 2018, 4:10 pm
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Oct 1, 2018, 4:12 pm
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But noted!
Oct 1, 2018, 6:53 pm
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In my example, SA's M class (100% if SA operating) was converted to ANA's U class (70% earnings, but 1.5 route factor resulted 105% premium points earning).
In worst case, a cheapest fare earns 0% miles and premium points.
And, ANA couldn't tell you a conversion scenario before actual crediting.
Oct 1, 2018, 7:00 pm
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Be aware. There are magical mappings from marketing airlines booking class to operating airlines booking class.
In my example, SA's M class (100% if SA operating) was converted to ANA's U class (70% earnings, but 1.5 route factor resulted 105% premium points earning).
In worst case, a cheapest fare earns 0% miles and premium points.
And, ANA couldn't tell you a conversion scenario before actual crediting.
In my example, SA's M class (100% if SA operating) was converted to ANA's U class (70% earnings, but 1.5 route factor resulted 105% premium points earning).
In worst case, a cheapest fare earns 0% miles and premium points.
And, ANA couldn't tell you a conversion scenario before actual crediting.
Oct 2, 2018, 4:38 am
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Smart to play it safe. I thought I had my 50,000 perfectly worked out with a final trip to Phuket, only to find that the TG-operated Bangkok-Phuket leg accrues zero premium points.
Oct 2, 2018, 7:44 pm
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This happened to me on my SQ trip to Bali... ZERO miles and premium points in all itineraries.... lesson learned
Oct 2, 2018, 8:32 pm
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If you choose a native SQ flight, you can earn miles/PP.
However, SQ coded MI(Silkair, sub of SQ) earns 0 miles/PP, because of MI isn't a Star Alliance partner.
Partner coded non-partner operating fights usually earn no miles in most of FFPs.
Oct 2, 2018, 10:31 pm
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at least I got lounge access...
Oct 3, 2018, 6:11 pm
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