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Old Sep 28, 18, 12:29 pm
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On 1/1/19, there are four flights scheduled on NH from HKG to TYO; two to Haneda and two to Narita.

The next day, there was only one scheduled flight (NH812 to NRT).

Then, randomly, I checked today and they added the midnight flight to HND (NH822).

1. I checked the schedule for the following Wednesday (1/9/19) and they're back to four flights. Anyone know why there are so few flights on 1/2/19?

2. Both flights (NH 812 and NH 822) are showing as empty in Y on ExpertFlyer, though somehow award availability is only available on the midnight Haneda flight (NH822) that was just added. Anyone know why NH812 isn't showing availability despite an empty cabin? Does NH release seats at the last minute?

3. I booked NH822 in Y as a UA award. Normally, when I fly NH (regardless of whether it is ticketed on NH or UA) I'm able to select the exit row seats that are normally blocked for everyone else because I am *G). This time, it's not letting me select the exit row (ExpertFlyer is showing it as P, not X; so I feel as if I would normally be able to select it). The only difference between previous times and this time is that this ticket is an award ticket on UA. I called NH to see if my *G status was recognized on this reservation and they said it wasn't; but even after the agent added my MileagePlus number on the reservation, it still wouldn't let me select the exit row. Anyone experience this before?
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Old Sep 30, 18, 9:56 pm
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Flight list for January 1st 2019
[KVS Tool 9.0.0/Diamond - Timetable]
Code:
HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
TYO  Tokyo Metro JP = NRT HND
TUE  01 Jan 2019

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency   Dur'n   Dep T   Arr T   Meals   Miles   Kms   Codeshare
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------------------------------------------------------------
NH         812     HKG   10:00     NRT   15:10     763  0   1234567     04:10       1       1   M        1843  2966
NH         860     HKG   14:25     HND   19:15     789  0   1234567     03:50       1       I   M        1805  2905
NH         810     HKG   15:20     NRT   20:15     763  0   1234567     03:55       1       1   M        1843  2966
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Old Sep 30, 18, 10:03 pm
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And, flight schedule list for January 2nd 2019.
[KVS Tool 9.0.0/Diamond - Timetable]
Code:
HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
TYO  Tokyo Metro JP = NRT HND
WED  02 Jan 2019

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency   Dur'n   Dep T   Arr T   Meals   Miles   Kms   Codeshare
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------------------------------------------------------------
NH         812     HKG   10:00     NRT   15:10     763  0   1234567     04:10       1       1   M        1843  2966
NH         860     HKG   14:25     HND   19:15     789  0   1234567     03:50       1       I   M        1805  2905
NH         810     HKG   15:20     NRT   20:15     763  0   1234567     03:55       1       1   M        1843  2966
How were you checking the schedules you say you saw?
>Anyone know why there are so few flights on 1/2/19? seems to be exactly the same.
>Anyone know why NH812 isn't showing availability despite an empty cabin? NH inventory control. It is the very high season (new year), so dont even epxect any award space to be open.
>Does NH release seats at the last minute? Depends on the route. feel lucky if it does open up for this popular route.

>The only difference between previous times and this time is that this ticket is an award ticket on UA.
there is always a first time for everything.

> it still wouldn't let me select the exit row. Anyone experience this before? Yes. For *A ticketed tickets (not ticketed by ANA), ANA only recognizes its own elites and not any other FFP elites (such as UA). I am a A3 gold, and usually face this issue with M&B tickets for seat selection blocks.
However, I dont redeem for economy class, and so the level of issues with seats in my case (business class) is not the same as your case (in economy class).
You will have to wait until check in opens (T-24). It is what it is.
If exit row is important to you, either book a separate cash ticket or miles ticket with ANA, and input your *G FFP number.
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Old Oct 1, 18, 9:32 am
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Thanks for the reply, Tokyoite!
I was searching using ANA's website and Google flights.

This is what comes up for January 1:



And this is what comes up for January 2:


Re: seat selection -- Even when I was ticketed on UA, I was able to select exit row seats in the past. Guess it won't let me this time
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Fully booked flights aren't shown in ANA's booking site.
For example, NH860 is fully booked on Jan 2nd.
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@Wasabi Tofu...excellent explanation!
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Old Oct 2, 18, 7:53 am
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Originally Posted by Wasabi Tofu View Post
Fully booked flights aren't shown in ANA's booking site.
For example, NH860 is fully booked on Jan 2nd.
whoa

mind blown
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Old Oct 3, 18, 8:39 am
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Now ANA's website is showing:
NH822 HKG-HND at 00:40
NH810 HKG-NRT at 15:20
NH812 HKG-NRT at 10:00
--for January 2

Google flights also shows the second Haneda flight (NH860 at 14:25) on January 2 as well!

Though none of these appear to be bookable as awards on ANA's site
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Google Flights showed NH860 because there are seats available for sale.


The flights are not bookable as awards because no award space exists
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Originally Posted by NYC2SGN View Post
Now ANA's website is showing:
NH822 HKG-HND at 00:40
NH810 HKG-NRT at 15:20
NH812 HKG-NRT at 10:00
--for January 2

Google flights also shows the second Haneda flight (NH860 at 14:25) on January 2 as well!

Though none of these appear to be bookable as awards on ANA's site
too late to expect award availability for this high season New Years period.
all you can hope for is someone cancels and availability opens up. Highly unlikely though.
start looking at alternatives (HK express etc.)
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