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New ANA/partner award charts to take effect April 12, 2015

Old Nov 5, 14, 12:58 am
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New ANA/partner award charts to take effect April 12, 2015

Old Mar 2, 15, 10:10 pm
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Originally Posted by O Sora
This seems to be newly added:
(2015年4月12日以前に作られた予約をお持ちの場合でも、2015年4月12日以降に未使用航空券の 第一区間の変更をする場合は、新しいご利用条件が適用されます。)
into:
(Even if you have a reservation made before April 12, 2015, in the case where the first interval change of unused air tickets on or after April 12, 2015, the new terms and conditions are applied trout.)
So does this mean a speculative booking before 4/12/15 will not work if the first segment needs to change?
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Old Mar 10, 15, 11:31 pm
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any japanese speakers out there that can tell us when "low, mid, and peak" seasons are for the ANA chart?
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Old Mar 11, 15, 1:03 am
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http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/us/e/asw_co...u/kokusai.html
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Old Mar 11, 15, 2:48 pm
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thanks!
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Old Mar 12, 15, 2:32 am
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Originally Posted by corrad
so if I were to understand the new chart correctly, Asia 1 (china, hong kong, taiwan) to North America using on ANA would be 90K miles in biz, but if it's with one of the star alliance partners, then it's 105K miles?
anyone know the answer to this? the OP indicated that if it's on Star Alliance partner, then the regular ANA award chart applies? which means it's 90K in J during regular season?
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Old Mar 23, 15, 3:26 pm
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Anyone able to get a better translation of this link? https://www.ana.co.jp/amc/news/info/...vision/#detail

I used google translate and some of it is clear, but some of the most important parts (the routing rules) are not clear at all.

Specifically about transiting a third region. Best I can tell you can't transit a third region if it costs more than your end point. So theoretically US-SYD via Asia would not work but US-SYD via Middle East would be okay. I can't really say with any confidence until we get a better translation.
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Old Mar 23, 15, 4:26 pm
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Area 1: Americas, Hawaii etc.
Area 2: Europe, Middle East, Africa, etc.
Area 3: Japan, Asia, SW Pacific, etc.

Going from Area 1 to:
Area 1 you can't transit in Areas 2 or 3
Area 2 you can't transit in Area 3
Area 3 you can't transit in Area 2

Going from Area 2 to:
Area 1 you can't transit in Area 3
Area 2 you can't transit in Areas 1 or 3
Area 3 you can't transit in Area 1

Going from Area 3 to:
Area 1 you can't transit in Area 2
Area 2 you can't transit in Area 1
Area 3 you can't transit in Areas 1 or 2
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Old Mar 23, 15, 7:54 pm
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Originally Posted by alexj7
Anyone able to get a better translation of this link? https://www.ana.co.jp/amc/news/info/...vision/#detail

I used google translate and some of it is clear, but some of the most important parts (the routing rules) are not clear at all.

Specifically about transiting a third region. Best I can tell you can't transit a third region if it costs more than your end point. So theoretically US-SYD via Asia would not work but US-SYD via Middle East would be okay. I can't really say with any confidence until we get a better translation.
You are right in that you cannot do US-SYD via Asia because of the cost of mileage restrictions.

PLUS:-:

You cannot do US-SYD via Middle East because it violates the geographical area (IATA Area 1, 2 and 3) restrictions.
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Old Mar 24, 15, 6:17 am
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Thanks for the useful information. Looks like the routing rules aren't so great then.
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Old Apr 8, 15, 2:35 pm
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Hey guys, trying to book an award J ticket from US to EU next month for a family member. Right now it's pricing out at 85k miles. But I see that the award chart is changing in a couple of days and I'm not sure what the new amount will be. The wiki above seems to suggest that Zone 6 to Zone 7 in J will be 72k miles but when I go to the ANA website it has a different partner award chart, linked below, suggesting that it should be 88k miles. Which one should I be following? Any clarity offered is much appreciated.

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https://www.ana.co.jp/wws/japan/e/lo...art_teikei.pdf
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Old Apr 8, 15, 3:01 pm
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Originally Posted by GNVGator
Hey guys, trying to book an award J ticket from US to EU next month for a family member. Right now it's pricing out at 85k miles. But I see that the award chart is changing in a couple of days and I'm not sure what the new amount will be. The wiki above seems to suggest that Zone 6 to Zone 7 in J will be 72k miles but when I go to the ANA website it has a different partner award chart, linked below, suggesting that it should be 88k miles. Which one should I be following? Any clarity offered is much appreciated.

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https://www.ana.co.jp/wws/japan/e/lo...art_teikei.pdf
The correct amount is 88K miles. The chart linked in Wiki is dated from 11/2014 when the changes were first announced. The current chart on ANA website is as of 03/2015. It appears, ANA, has made some further revision since, unfortunately.

Please refer to this chart instead: https://www.ana.co.jp/wws/japan/e/lo...art_teikei.pdf
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Old Apr 8, 15, 3:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Guava
The correct amount is 88K miles. The chart linked in Wiki is dated from 11/2014 when the changes were first announced. The current chart on ANA website is as of 03/2015. It appears, ANA, has made some further revision since, unfortunately.

Please refer to this chart instead: https://www.ana.co.jp/wws/japan/e/lo...art_teikei.pdf
Many thanks, I'll go ahead and pull the trigger on this award flight then.

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Old Apr 8, 15, 11:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Guava
The correct amount is 88K miles. The chart linked in Wiki is dated from 11/2014 when the changes were first announced. The current chart on ANA website is as of 03/2015. It appears, ANA, has made some further revision since, unfortunately.

Please refer to this chart instead: https://www.ana.co.jp/wws/japan/e/lo...art_teikei.pdf
Looks like they realized 72k r/t to europe from na in J was too cheap. lets blame the bloggers for pointing out the sweet spots
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Old Apr 9, 15, 1:43 pm
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nevermind, misread the original chart.
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Old Apr 12, 15, 4:18 pm
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Sorry I am trying to figure this out for a friend. Trying to see if we should transfer the AMEX MR points over to use on NH.

Looks like the new Stopover rules are here http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/japan/e/loc...1_2_popup.html

Would the following be doable with NH on Star Alliance rule-wise:

LAX-xxx-xxx-SIN (Stopover)-PER (Destination)-xxx-xxx-LAX

How about if we can't find a nonstop and SIN-PER becomes SIN-BKK-PER? (Any rules on maximum permitted miles?)

I guess under the new chart, it is Zone 6-Zone 10 so it is 75,000 miles round trip - with the stopover?

It seems there are no change fees other than 3,000 miles for redeposit?

Thanks.
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