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Old Aug 22, 2017, 7:49 pm
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ANA website seat maps
https://www.ana.co.jp/wws/ca/e/asw_common/departure/inflight/seatmap/
2-2-2 or 2-3-2 staggered all isle seats. Photos can be seen below.

FAQ about ANA "BUSINESS STAGGERED"
1. What planes have the BUSINESS STAGGERED suites?
ALL 777-300ER(77W) and 787-900 (789), as well as one type of the B787-8(169 seats variation).
ANA website links on business staggered class is here (77W), (789) and B787-8(169 seats variation).

2. What is the best seat for a solo passenger?
Any of the window seats, odd number rows on the left (1A,3A,5A..), even number rows on the right (2K,4K,6K...)

3. What is the best seat for a couple?
No consensus.

4. I see 1A blocked on the 789 or 787. Is it occupied?
It will be released to all at online check-in (t-24) if not occupied.

5. What routes have the BUSINESS STAGGERED suites?
ALL 777W routes =NRT-JFK,LAX,SFO,ORD,IAD,IAH, & HND-JFK,LAX,ORD,CDG,FRA,LHR
ALL 789 routes (215 seats variation) = HND-SYD,SIN,BKK,HAN,SJC,SEA,YVR,CDG,MUC,DUS,
B787-8(169 seats variation). = NRT-MEX,BRU,DEL,BOM

6. What's up with all this chatter about hot cabins?
The cabin temperature seems to be maintained very warm relative to most westerners' preferences, but it seems to be the preferred temperature for Japanese passengers.
You will survive.


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Post 461 - Seat 3A on the B789 - August 2018 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30072531-post461.html

5 photos below from Boeing 777-300ER (77W)
From 2 flights on the same trip - May 2017 - posted by 24left












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Old Aug 22, 2017, 6:22 pm
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Originally Posted by weibelt
I did look at the seat map and it is suppose to be the staggered layout not the regional layout (the first one picture).....
Ah right, I was looking at the config for NH 804 for eg.

Still, as per capedreamer's recent experience.....

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Old Aug 22, 2017, 7:21 pm
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On a full flight on the 773 we got the last two seats in the middle (row 21). They were very cpmfortable and we still got our choice of Japanese meal.

However, service was nice but very inefficient, drinks not properly timed to be served with dishes, one side of the cabin served much later (twenty minutes) than the other, hostesses struggled with English... Training is needed here.

Also, it is great to be isolated from each other, unless of course you are a couple.

We loved travelling ANA to to Japan, but there is room for improvement in service.
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Old Aug 22, 2017, 7:50 pm
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Thought it might be helpful so I created a Wiki and added some photos

Feel free to add photos from ANA's other aircraft
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Old Aug 23, 2017, 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by weibelt
I did look at the seat map and it is suppose to be the staggered layout not the regional layout (the first one picture).

Good point. I did not think about that. I agree that is a lot more likely to happen on SJC.
Ironically, I'm now flying from/to SJC.

Does anyone know if 5A on the 788 (with Business Staggered) has any issues with lacking windows, etc? Many thanks!

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UPDATE: After being presented some conflicting info on ANA.com (row 5 has windows), ExpertFlyer (5K is missing a window but 5A seems to be ok), and Seatguru (no windows for 5A or 5K), I waded through many photos and trip reports until I came across a definitive answer via Ben's helpful trip report here. TL;DR: Row 5 on the 788 has 1 instead of 2 windows.

Many thanks to 24left for her help during this process!

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Old Sep 18, 2017, 11:35 am
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This might be a silly/obvious question, but does this gap issue apply to F/G, and vice versa E to D and G to F as well? Basically can you see the screen diagonally from your seat no matter which middle seat you're in? Thanks!

Originally Posted by joejones
After some further digging, I think this may only be an issue on the 77W. You can see the D/E gap I am talking about in this photo:



Last time I flew in a D seat on the 77W I was treated to all the movies and laptop Excel spreadsheets being viewed by the guy in the E seat in front of me. Totally kills the privacy aspect. That said, I realized from googling that the 787 seats are different and do not feature such a gap, so I would be more willing to take these "middle seats"...

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Old Sep 25, 2017, 12:01 am
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Throne Seat?

I've currently selected 6F (bulkhead throne seat) on an upcoming 788 flight. Are there any opinions regarding this? I will be flying solo. I've never flown the 788/789 on ANA in Business, but have on the 777, and always was in a true window seat, but all of those are filled for my flight. Thanks!
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Old Oct 25, 2017, 12:52 am
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My wife and I are scheduled to fly a daytime J flight of 8 hours on a 789. From review of the last few pages, it appears that the middle seats are the best for couples flying together (as opposed to a C/D choice)?

Would Row 2 middle be a good choice? Do they keep refreshments on a table right in front of these seats?

Many thanks in advance!
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Old Oct 25, 2017, 9:23 am
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I understand that mobile FT users can't see the wiki.

In it, I posted:

ANA website seat maps

https://www.ana.co.jp/wws/ca/e/asw_c...light/seatmap/

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Boeing 777-300ER (77W)

From 2 flights on the same trip - May 2017

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It would be great if those flying on the 788 and 789 could post photos in the wiki as well. Thanks
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Old Oct 25, 2017, 9:29 am
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Originally Posted by 747FC
......Do they keep refreshments on a table right in front of these seats?

Many thanks in advance!

@747FC
I don't know how they place refreshments on the 789.

On the 777s I flew, they had them on counters in the various galley areas.
Some of these are from Business and at least one of these is from Y cabin.

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Old Oct 31, 2017, 12:32 am
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Do they offer this seat on any flight from Tokyo to Shanghai?
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Old Oct 31, 2017, 12:55 am
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Originally Posted by nikkoap92
Do they offer this seat on any flight from Tokyo to Shanghai?
PVG to NRT has flights with business staggered cabin.
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Old Oct 31, 2017, 3:04 am
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Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
PVG to NRT has flights with business staggered cabin.
Thanks Is there a way to see aircraft with that seat in the ANA booking page?
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Old Oct 31, 2017, 7:19 am
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Originally Posted by nikkoap92
Thanks Is there a way to see aircraft with that seat in the ANA booking page?
Not sure if you meant a photo of the seat or the seat map of the aircraft.

If you're on FT mobile, you might not see it, but I posted a collection of photos in the wiki at the top of the page as well as the link to the ANA pages with seat maps for each aircraft

https://www.ana.co.jp/wws/ca/e/asw_c...light/seatmap/
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Old Oct 31, 2017, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by nikkoap92
Thanks Is there a way to see aircraft with that seat in the ANA booking page?
Yes — you can preview the seat map when booking. It looks like the first two NRT-PVG flights in the day are operated with the business staggered 788 configs while the rest are the regional configs (2-2-2 recliners in J).
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Sorry if this is a repeat question: Do the privacy screens between center seats on the 789 retract?

Thanks.
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