Bid for upgrade
Mar 5, 2019, 6:12 am
#91
Join Date: Jan 2000
Programs: Free agent
Posts: 1,296
Just booked my cheapest Alitalia long-haul flight ever. Booked a round trip from TLV to JNB via FCO in Y for 333$.
Was offered the following minimum bids:
TLV-FCO from Y to EU J 160EUR.
FCO-JNB Y to W 120EUR, Y to J 350 EUR.
Same prices for the return.
TLV-FCO offer seems ridiculously high for an empty middle seat.
Long-haul seems like a good price for both W and J. Very tempted to bid just a bit over the minimum since the flight seems really empty anyway so worst case scenario I will probably have a row of Y seats all for myself.
Anyone noticed how empty the flights to JNB seem to be?
Was offered the following minimum bids:
TLV-FCO from Y to EU J 160EUR.
FCO-JNB Y to W 120EUR, Y to J 350 EUR.
Same prices for the return.
TLV-FCO offer seems ridiculously high for an empty middle seat.
Long-haul seems like a good price for both W and J. Very tempted to bid just a bit over the minimum since the flight seems really empty anyway so worst case scenario I will probably have a row of Y seats all for myself.
Anyone noticed how empty the flights to JNB seem to be?
I was thinking it would be 50 based on the long haul options.
Mar 5, 2019, 7:55 am
#92
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: FCO
Programs: HH Diamond, IHG Platinum, M&M FTL, AZ Ulisse
Posts: 10
I'll fly SOF-FCO in a couple weeks, and decided to try the upgrade bidding process. Lowest acceptable offer is €45, and highest is €175. I initially bid €95, which is the lowest one within the 'Good' range, but after reading that someone here on a comparable flight got their offer for €45 accepted, I decided to change it. Hopefully it works, and I'll report back.
But, that led me to think if perhaps there could be a wiki so that we can use previous experiences to help our bidding. I know there are some similar wikis for other airlines. Thoughts?
But, that led me to think if perhaps there could be a wiki so that we can use previous experiences to help our bidding. I know there are some similar wikis for other airlines. Thoughts?
I have to say that check-in agent wasn't really informed about how it works the upgrade system. "you have an economy ticket" "oh no, is it a business one, but you can't check a bag" At the time I also had a Ulisse status. If I remember well that summer the AZ flight was something new in SOF.
Mar 13, 2019, 10:16 pm
#93
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Enn Why Cee
Programs: DL, CO, LH, BA etc...
Posts: 1,570
AFAIK AZ 520/521 have operated more or less since probs the early 90's if not earlier... but I suspect your experience was more related tot he ground handling agent who is highly unlikely to know how to handle the upgrade - I believe a few years ago AZ switched form native AZ personal to an outsourcer...
Mar 14, 2019, 2:16 am
#94
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: SJJ/AMS
Posts: 4,647
May 14, 2019, 8:39 am
#95
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: China
Posts: 183
please forgive me if this was answered before.
I am booked on a IEV - FCO in Business + FCO - YYZ in Premium Economy and back. Need XP points in FlyingBlue to reach Gold... should get 70 XP for this trip.
If i upgrade both long hauls to Business (btw its shows min of 160e, 245e a "Good" offer, 290e "Strong", 355e "Excellent" and 410 MAX), will i still get the 70 XP in FlyingBlue for this itinerary (edited: sorry, what i meant is will i still get at least my 70XP... at least 70 from the original is enough for me)?
thanks a lot
I am booked on a IEV - FCO in Business + FCO - YYZ in Premium Economy and back. Need XP points in FlyingBlue to reach Gold... should get 70 XP for this trip.
If i upgrade both long hauls to Business (btw its shows min of 160e, 245e a "Good" offer, 290e "Strong", 355e "Excellent" and 410 MAX), will i still get the 70 XP in FlyingBlue for this itinerary (edited: sorry, what i meant is will i still get at least my 70XP... at least 70 from the original is enough for me)?
thanks a lot
Last edited by barman2891; May 14, 2019 at 10:29 am
May 14, 2019, 8:47 am
#96
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: FCO
Programs: HH Diamond, IHG Platinum, M&M FTL, AZ Ulisse
Posts: 10
Not sure if your upgraded flight will be able to credit miles on your account. Usually, AZ changes the booking class to Z (award flight) and you get only the miles of the original reservation.
But I don't know how it works with Flying Blue (I had a Millemiglia account)
But I don't know how it works with Flying Blue (I had a Millemiglia account)
May 14, 2019, 8:50 am
#97
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: China
Posts: 183
Not sure if your upgraded flight will be able to credit miles on your account. Usually, AZ changes the booking class to Z (award flight) and you get only the miles of the original reservation.
But I don't know how it works with Flying Blue (I had a Millemiglia account)
But I don't know how it works with Flying Blue (I had a Millemiglia account)
May 16, 2019, 10:30 am
#99
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
Programs: KL Platinum; A3 Gold
Posts: 28,679
However, if you supply the original e-ticket, and the email confirmations of your upgrade, then Flying Blue should credit you for the miles/XPs of the class originally booked but not flown.
May 17, 2019, 6:45 am
#100
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: China
Posts: 183
Not automatically. As others have said, your ticket will likely be changed to a class that Flying Blue will give no credit for.
However, if you supply the original e-ticket, and the email confirmations of your upgrade, then Flying Blue should credit you for the miles/XPs of the class originally booked but not flown.
However, if you supply the original e-ticket, and the email confirmations of your upgrade, then Flying Blue should credit you for the miles/XPs of the class originally booked but not flown.
thanks
May 18, 2019, 9:17 am
#102
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: AA Lifetime Platinum (3MM), QF Lifetime Gold, Bonvoy Lifetime Platinum, Ex-Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 7,541
I don't think AZ offer PE BOS-FCO. Does this mean people can bid to upgrade from cheapest economy to business? If so, how much should the bids be?
May 19, 2019, 2:37 am
#103
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Italy
Programs: Accor Gold, Marriott Titanium, IHG Diamond , Amex Platinum
Posts: 1,484
there is not any “rule” on bidding to business upgrade. It can be 200 € as 2.000 € ...
Business class on BOS-FCO is normally very expensive if not booked a lot of months in advance
May 30, 2019, 1:08 pm
#104
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 679
New datapoint for anyone who may care. I'm booked PE JFK-FCO in a week and a half. Just got an email offering the bidding opportunity. The lowest amount they'll let me bid is €290 per person and I don't get to "good" on the offer strength meter until I get to 345. Strong is €380. I'm sure it would be nice but I'm going to pass.
I booked my return flight as a DL codeshare and the site is showing not eligible for upgrade. Not sure if it's because it's too far our or because I booked it as DL.
I booked my return flight as a DL codeshare and the site is showing not eligible for upgrade. Not sure if it's because it's too far our or because I booked it as DL.
Jun 1, 2019, 5:54 am
#105
Join Date: Jul 2013
Programs: United Mileage Plus
Posts: 3
Data point:
LAX-FCO AZ621 5/18 777-200 Me & spouse on the same ticket. Bid E315 for Premium Econ (Classica Plus) 2 weeks out with 8 open seats. Rejected at T-8hr. Flt flew with 1 open seat in PE
FCO-LAX AZ620 5/31 777-200 Me & spouse on the same ticket. Bid E440 (maximum) for Premium Econ (Classica Plus) 1 week out with 5 open seats. Accepted at T-48hr. Flt flew with 1 open seat in PE
Note: this ticket was so cheap ($1000 RT) we had to pay E50 for each bag at check-in even after getting the upgrade. Fare class may have affected our rank in the upgrade bid process, though I have no evidence. Unfortunately I also do not have a fare class.
Anecdotally met a girl who upgraded to business for E700 from econ on LAX-FCO AZ621 5/18
LAX-FCO AZ621 5/18 777-200 Me & spouse on the same ticket. Bid E315 for Premium Econ (Classica Plus) 2 weeks out with 8 open seats. Rejected at T-8hr. Flt flew with 1 open seat in PE
FCO-LAX AZ620 5/31 777-200 Me & spouse on the same ticket. Bid E440 (maximum) for Premium Econ (Classica Plus) 1 week out with 5 open seats. Accepted at T-48hr. Flt flew with 1 open seat in PE
Note: this ticket was so cheap ($1000 RT) we had to pay E50 for each bag at check-in even after getting the upgrade. Fare class may have affected our rank in the upgrade bid process, though I have no evidence. Unfortunately I also do not have a fare class.
Anecdotally met a girl who upgraded to business for E700 from econ on LAX-FCO AZ621 5/18
