MilleMiglia 2013 rumors

Old Sep 17, 12, 2:46 pm
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MilleMiglia 2013 rumors

Hi, a few rumors collected from friends and leaks on the Facebook page:
  1. There will be a 2013 "MilleMiglia" program. No merger with FB.
  2. The new program will start at zero miles, probably carry over status, just like in 2008
  3. Miles from the current programme will be expendable till June 2013 to fly up to a year later
  4. A mechanism for carrying over miles is promised as part of the Amex Alitalia package in the US
  5. Today, a FB team representative made reference to "possible solutions" for people with a "large amount of miles" to carry them over.

Points 1-2-3 are almost certain, point 4 is a fact, point 5 matter of speculations...
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Old Sep 17, 12, 4:06 pm
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Miles are useless unless you spend them. Its not the same as having cash in the bank - that goes for any FF program

Do hope that MM remains separate from FB although I must say I'm not so sure (would save AZ a lot of money to join AF / KL on FF scheme I'd reckon..)
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Old Sep 17, 12, 4:19 pm
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Alitalia is really generous in miles, despite changes few months ago.

it's a good things to join FB program, if the project to merge AZ with AF / KLM still exists.
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Old Sep 17, 12, 4:29 pm
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Originally Posted by NickoSnow
Alitalia is really generous in miles, despite changes few months ago.

it's a good things to join FB program, if the project to merge AZ with AF / KLM still exists.
Alitalia is generous with miles if

a) you fly AZ or codeshare AZ buying off AZ with AZ flight number (9W, EY, AF etc etc)
b) if you fly J. Yes 300% bonus is excellent
c) if you have AMEX AZ card (4 miles per on Alitalia and they are QUALIFYING on AZ spend)

BUT... Not so generous if you
a) fly domestically. Its a bit better now but still MUCH easier to get status by flying longhaul rather then taking 10's of flights domestically
b) fly cheap Y tickets (as with most airlines)
c) flying J + F on skyteam carriers, except AF as I found out a few weeks ago
and lastly d) PROMO awards and special offers don't really exist for MM. OK a few things for earning more miles - but not on redemptions...
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I still hold over 100k AZ miles. Will they expiry by the end of the year?
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Old Sep 17, 12, 4:49 pm
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Originally Posted by TallestHotelInJapan
I still hold over 100k AZ miles. Will they expiry by the end of the year?
Yes

But you will have to wait and see how AZ will decide to create the new MM

Might well be that with one flight you get all your (old) miles back

Watch this space
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Old Sep 17, 12, 5:44 pm
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Uhm... A few days ago I was invited by AZ to join a customer focus group due to take part into a series of panels/questionnaires. Interestingly the topic of the first one was AZ-AF-KL "further integration"... Very specific subjects and questions, with a lot of attention on the respective frequent flyer programs as well as routes, service and premium cabins.

I had never heard of a potential MM/FB merger... But now I am a bit concerned.
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Agree Flying_Pig... Lets cross our fingers

Wouldn't be good news.
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Old Sep 18, 12, 6:34 am
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Originally Posted by terminalfive
Agree Flying_Pig... Lets cross our fingers

Wouldn't be good news.
I think you guys missed the core part of my original post which is that integration with FB is not in the near future.
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Old Sep 18, 12, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by raistlin
[*]There will be a 2013 "MilleMiglia" program. No merger with FB.
Points 1-2-3 are almost certain
Good.
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Originally Posted by raistlin
Points 1-2-3 are almost certain, point 4 is a fact, point 5 matter of speculations...
Hmmm, why do you call this rumors if one "is a fact", three are "almost certain" and only one out of five is a "matter of speculation"?
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Old Sep 18, 12, 2:51 pm
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Originally Posted by planestupid
Hmmm, why do you call this rumors if one "is a fact", three are "almost certain" and only one out of five is a "matter of speculation"?
Because the almost certain things are still from rumors or half-words caught here and there ;-)
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Old Sep 18, 12, 2:55 pm
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Originally Posted by raistlin
Because the almost certain things are still from rumors or half-words caught here and there ;-)
I do hope you're right raistlin!!

I haven't heard any rumours but I just have a bad feeling that FB is round the corner.

It would save AZ money and it would resolve the problem of MM lasting always only two or three years as FB would be based in France

Would create them problems with AMEX and a few other banks..
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Old Sep 19, 12, 7:23 am
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Originally Posted by terminalfive
I do hope you're right raistlin!!

I haven't heard any rumours but I just have a bad feeling that FB is round the corner.

It would save AZ money and it would resolve the problem of MM lasting always only two or three years as FB would be based in France

Would create them problems with AMEX and a few other banks..
I honestly think, at the beginning of the year, that was their intention.

Then, with the AF cash crisis, integration of the airlines got postponed, and FB integration plans too.

My own 2c, complete speculation.
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Old Sep 19, 12, 9:00 am
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What does sound better?
MilleBlue of FlyingMiglia?
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