Going round in circles...
#1
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Going round in circles...
I'll cut a long story short. Booked a six segment return trip in J including both AZ metal and DL codeshare, all confirmed on the right flights and in the right class on screen and in email confirmation. Then eticket was issued a few hours later with only 4 segments (two purely missing!). Called AZ, after a long explaination the lady said she would reinstate the two missing flights. She did, but in Y. Ever since, I have been calling AZ, who every time tell me that there is no problem and they will sort it out. After a few calls and someone telling me they had problem with inventory now, I said I wouldn't mind being rerouted if it is easier (when I booked there were tons of different routings available at the same fare), person said it was a good idea would ask a supervisor and called the same day. Since then, I have called at least a dozen time, told not to worry and that everything would be sorted out as many times, told I would be called back at least half of those time (and obviously never was). Went to the airport in France but AF handle their operations including reservation desks and... don't have access to the AZ files (they can view them but not change them), tried in Brussels but again was told that since supervisor authorisation had been requested (and neither given nor declined for about 4 weeks now) they wanted me to deal with the phone team. Flight was booked in May, is now taking place in less than a week and I'm starting to feel very frustrated about the reservation side of AZ. Has anyone got a bright suggestion of something I haven't tried apart from calling the AZ Italy office and trying airports? Thanks!!
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Can we have segment details? Were they all AZ flight numbers? You booked from the Alitalia website, and then on the confirmation page some flights were missing? At the purchase page the flights were still listed? The price looked normal for the routing?
This sounds quite strange, and I would have thought the airport ticketing office could have helped you... there's nothing else to do except phone again and again, maybe also try posting on the Facebook page with precise details to raise awareness (the Alitalia page admin are able to contact people higher up in the airline).
EDIT: If the flights are listed in the e-mail confirmation, surely you could have just gone to the airport on the day of your flight with the e-mail proving you bought the tickets? Then they would be obliged to let you on the flight. I don't understand what you mean when you say that the "e-ticket issued 4 hours later had flights missing". If you received a correct e-mail confirmation then your flights should be listed correctly if you check the following link, and in that case you have no problems:
https://mm.alitalia.com/IT_IT/booking/apvsearch.aspx
If you lost the Reservation code you can try using flight number and date here:
https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
This sounds quite strange, and I would have thought the airport ticketing office could have helped you... there's nothing else to do except phone again and again, maybe also try posting on the Facebook page with precise details to raise awareness (the Alitalia page admin are able to contact people higher up in the airline).
EDIT: If the flights are listed in the e-mail confirmation, surely you could have just gone to the airport on the day of your flight with the e-mail proving you bought the tickets? Then they would be obliged to let you on the flight. I don't understand what you mean when you say that the "e-ticket issued 4 hours later had flights missing". If you received a correct e-mail confirmation then your flights should be listed correctly if you check the following link, and in that case you have no problems:
https://mm.alitalia.com/IT_IT/booking/apvsearch.aspx
If you lost the Reservation code you can try using flight number and date here:
https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Last edited by bungler; Jun 30, 2012 at 2:08 am
#3
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Can we have segment details? Were they all AZ flight numbers? You booked from the Alitalia website, and then on the confirmation page some flights were missing? At the purchase page the flights were still listed? The price looked normal for the routing?
This sounds quite strange, and I would have thought the airport ticketing office could have helped you... there's nothing else to do except phone again and again, maybe also try posting on the Facebook page with precise details to raise awareness (the Alitalia page admin are able to contact people higher up in the airline).
EDIT: If the flights are listed in the e-mail confirmation, surely you could have just gone to the airport on the day of your flight with the e-mail proving you bought the tickets? Then they would be obliged to let you on the flight. I don't understand what you mean when you say that the "e-ticket issued 4 hours later had flights missing". If you received a correct e-mail confirmation then your flights should be listed correctly if you check the following link, and in that case you have no problems:
https://mm.alitalia.com/IT_IT/booking/apvsearch.aspx
If you lost the Reservation code you can try using flight number and date here:
https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
This sounds quite strange, and I would have thought the airport ticketing office could have helped you... there's nothing else to do except phone again and again, maybe also try posting on the Facebook page with precise details to raise awareness (the Alitalia page admin are able to contact people higher up in the airline).
EDIT: If the flights are listed in the e-mail confirmation, surely you could have just gone to the airport on the day of your flight with the e-mail proving you bought the tickets? Then they would be obliged to let you on the flight. I don't understand what you mean when you say that the "e-ticket issued 4 hours later had flights missing". If you received a correct e-mail confirmation then your flights should be listed correctly if you check the following link, and in that case you have no problems:
https://mm.alitalia.com/IT_IT/booking/apvsearch.aspx
If you lost the Reservation code you can try using flight number and date here:
https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
When I went to the airport offices (both in NCE and in BRU) I went with my email confirmation to prove what the confirmed itinerary was. Good idea re-facebook, I didn't think of it but it is probably more prone to getting a fast answer! Do you post publically or send them a message? You are right that I could probably go to the airport on the day and hope for the best but I would have hoped to have things confirmed before. Moreover, as my first flight is from NCE where all ops are handled by AF I fear they will give me the same answer about not being able to do anything on the AZ portions.
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Received an answer to my post asking for my reference number (you're right, no possibility to PM then, you have to post it publically and delete the post later). Now been told they sent an email to the department in charge and will get back to me asap. I just hope it will lead to something rather than lead to yet another deadend. Fingers crossed...
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Thanks! I'll update everyone as soon as I hear back (or if I don't). Keep your fingers crossed for me! The phone people were always nice but neither very efficient (nothing got fixed and some didn't even propose anything) nor reliable (was told I'd be called back numerous times but never was) so I'm hoping Facebook will be more dependable.
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Thanks! I'll update everyone as soon as I hear back (or if I don't). Keep your fingers crossed for me! The phone people were always nice but neither very efficient (nothing got fixed and some didn't even propose anything) nor reliable (was told I'd be called back numerous times but never was) so I'm hoping Facebook will be more dependable.
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Exactly. It is a shame because their in flight product is now very good (especially in J) and in fairness they are pretty good on unexpected problems on the day (e.g. reroutings in case of delays or cancellations) but it seems that the general administrative situation is way more fragile...
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So mixed results so far. Yesterday, received a message from the AZ team who said that my reservation had been reinstated in business. Hurray, big thanks. Went to my reservation, the JFK-ORD has indeed been reinstated but not the ORD-JFK which still shows as economy. So I wrote back and they answered me that the ORD-JFK had always been confirmed in economy, which of course is not true and I proposed to forward them the original printout and the original email both of which showed business/first all the way. No answer so far. Departure in 24 hours (but all ok for outbound now) and return on Sunday...