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jackal Jul 2, 2008 3:22 pm

It's been beautiful down here in ANC the last few days. So sad I wasn't able to get out and do a hike or something. Hopefully the weather keeps up so I can!

Just checked the DenaliCam in the above link...mountain's viewable, though there are some clouds in the area. Still...all y'all tourists better get up there ASAP before she goes back into hiding! :D

ASflyer Jul 3, 2008 12:23 pm

Just checked it. Hardly a cloud in sight. Gorgeous!

tonypct Jul 4, 2008 7:33 am


Originally Posted by jackal (Post 9973425)
It's been beautiful down here in ANC the last few days. So sad I wasn't able to get out and do a hike or something. Hopefully the weather keeps up so I can!

Just checked the DenaliCam in the above link...mountain's viewable, though there are some clouds in the area. Still...all y'all tourists better get up there ASAP before she goes back into hiding! :D

Hey jackal, I just want to acknowledge that you have been a wealth of information regarding Alaska. When my wife and I were there just two weeks ago, we took many of your suggestions and were pleased with our experiences. So let me say publicly, Thank You! It was generous of you to share your time and insights on this and other threads in the Alaska forum.

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jackal Jul 4, 2008 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by tonypct (Post 9981667)
Hey jackal, I just want to acknowledge that you have been a wealth of information regarding Alaska. When my wife and I were there just two weeks ago, we took many of your suggestions and were pleased with our experiences. So let me say publicly, Thank You! It was generous of you to share your time and insights on this and other threads in the Alaska forum.

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Aww, shucks! :o Glad you found Alaska to your liking...and remember, there's a lot more to see up here, so start planning your next trip! :D

drat19 Jul 4, 2008 4:25 pm


Originally Posted by tonypct (Post 9981667)
Hey jackal, I just want to acknowledge that you have been a wealth of information regarding Alaska. When my wife and I were there just two weeks ago, we took many of your suggestions and were pleased with our experiences. So let me say publicly, Thank You! It was generous of you to share your time and insights on this and other threads in the Alaska forum.

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Allow me to add my +1 to the above post...all this great info I've read on many threads here is GREATLY appreciated and will be well used on our trip coming up next week. (And FYI, I considered posting for a DO, but (no offense!) our schedule is completely packed, and my wife just doesn't "get" the whole "meeting up with on-line strangers" thing even though of course *I* know it would be ALL GOOD.)

StrandedinLA Aug 31, 2008 10:51 pm

Enjoyed reading this thread a lot!

Mrs. Stranded and I are heading up on Saturday to spend a week over our first anniversary -- 2 nights Anchorage, 2 nights Healy, 2 nights Girdwood (with a laaate departure the next day). Driving.

Have only been in LA three years and miss "weather" but am curious if I will get more than my fill of cold and rainy.

In any case, it should be an adventure.

joelfreak Sep 12, 2008 1:43 am

I am sorry to say that my SO and I found the bus tour to perhaps be the most boring thing we have ever done. Sitting in a bus seat with a bunch of international tourists who go crazy if there is a moose or bear is hard to bear (pun intended). Don't get me wrong, we LOVED Alaska, but if you are going to drive from ANC to FAI, don't bother with the bus trip. For us, it was just a ton of cash spent to be on a bus with people who came off a cruise ship and this was all of Alaska they were going to get to see...and it showed. We saw moose on the side of the road for days on end...they saw 4 and we had to stop the bus for 10 minutes each so they could each get a picture...

adkkev Sep 12, 2008 11:12 am


Originally Posted by joelfreak (Post 10356417)
I am sorry to say that my SO and I found the bus tour to perhaps be the most boring thing we have ever done. Sitting in a bus seat with a bunch of international tourists who go crazy if there is a moose or bear is hard to bear (pun intended). Don't get me wrong, we LOVED Alaska, but if you are going to drive from ANC to FAI, don't bother with the bus trip. For us, it was just a ton of cash spent to be on a bus with people who came off a cruise ship and this was all of Alaska they were going to get to see...and it showed. We saw moose on the side of the road for days on end...they saw 4 and we had to stop the bus for 10 minutes each so they could each get a picture...

Were you on a shuttle bus or a tour bus? If it was a shuttle, you could have gotten off, done some exploration, and then flagged down another shuttle to continue your trip into the park. That's the beauty of the shuttle ...

ton of cash? how much $$ did you spend for this bus??

Sorry you didn't enjoy your venture into the park.

fti Oct 1, 2008 3:42 pm


Originally Posted by oldpenny16 (Post 9935167)
The people who cruise to Alaska don't see my Alaska and are fooled into thinking they have seen the real thing. I have taken a cruise boat to Alaska when it was cheaper than flying or got me to places that were otherwise too expensive or too hard to get to. That's it folks!

Most cruise passengers are satisfied with what they get, but most of the money for the cruises and the Made In China souvenirs goes out of Alaska and out of the USA. Some cruise lines are now bringing in non-Alaskans to work in their stores in the cruise ports.

Yes, cruise lines own some of the stores in the dock side towns.

I don't play the game when on a cruise ship in Alaska. We don't dress up in formal wear and don't spend our money on board.

One of my pet hates is the cruise lines who do round trips and never let the passengers off the board to see the interior or to spend money in Alaska! Might as well take those people to Disney World.

I think you are being a bit too hard. I have been to Alaska ten times, two of which were on cruises. If you want to be on a ship, spend time in the tourist souvenir shops at ports, etc., you can easily do that. But if you look at the cruise ship as cheap lodging and transportation, it can work well (which you alluded to). I spent 90% or more of the port time off the ship and away from the town - getting off the beaten path to hike or do excursions that are not ones where the cruise ship herds you to and fro.

The cruise ship passengers are as much at fault as the cruise lines - they should realize what they are buying but most have no clue. The same goes for cruise tours, which in my opinion are usually woefully inadequate. But people don't do due diligence before plunking down thousands of dollars. To each his own.

I would not object to taking an Alaskan cruise again but it would have to be at the right price and with the right ports. And again I would see it mainly as cheap lodging and transportation. My last cruise cost me under $500 for 7 nights in a single cabin. Bargains can be had and it can be a cheap way to see Alaska if you forget all the hype on the ship itself.

John

fti Oct 1, 2008 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by joelfreak (Post 10356417)
I am sorry to say that my SO and I found the bus tour to perhaps be the most boring thing we have ever done. Sitting in a bus seat with a bunch of international tourists who go crazy if there is a moose or bear is hard to bear (pun intended). Don't get me wrong, we LOVED Alaska, but if you are going to drive from ANC to FAI, don't bother with the bus trip. For us, it was just a ton of cash spent to be on a bus with people who came off a cruise ship and this was all of Alaska they were going to get to see...and it showed. We saw moose on the side of the road for days on end...they saw 4 and we had to stop the bus for 10 minutes each so they could each get a picture...

I too am sorry for your bad experience. If you were on a bus with cruise ship passengers, you were almost certainly on a tour (Tundra Wilderness Tour?). That is a huge mistake - the shuttle buses are much more flexible, travel the same road, cost 1/3 of the tour bus, allow you to get off and on at will, and have very experienced and informative drivers.

I have been in Denali several times and each time look forward to going back. I already have a trip planned for June 2009.

John


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