Itinerary advice, please
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Itinerary advice, please
We have 12 days in Alaska in early June and have hired a car. After a night or two in Anchorage we will poddle down to the Kenai Peninsula with stops along the way. We have booked boat trips on Prince William Sound and Kenai Fjords and a flightseeing tour from Homer to see bears in Katmai. All that will be at a fairly leisurely pace and take up 6 days. We would like to spend the last 2 days in Denali (and it will take a day to get there, I guess).
That leaves about 3 days that we haven't planned yet. Our focus is on wild life, nature and scenery. We are open to most things including flying somewhere if it is warranted.
What would the veterans of Alaskan travel recommend? Thanks in advance.
That leaves about 3 days that we haven't planned yet. Our focus is on wild life, nature and scenery. We are open to most things including flying somewhere if it is warranted.
What would the veterans of Alaskan travel recommend? Thanks in advance.
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If you have the time and the ferry schedules permit you could do a loop, driving from Anchorage to Valdez through the Matanuska-Susitna Valley, taking stops to hike on the Matanuska Glacier and hiking to several gorgeous waterfalls along Highway 4 into Valdez. Valdez has some excellent kayaking trips. Depending on your budget/time you could go to Columbia, Shoup, or Valdez glacier. Alternatively you could also make your way down to McCarthy and visit Wrangell-St. Elias National Park. Then, take the Alaska Marine Highway Ferry from Valdez to Whittier through the Prince William Sound and drive back to Anchorage.
We'll be in Alaska the same time, from June 6-12. This time we'll just be visiting the Kenai Peninsula but I wish we had more time to visit Valdez and Wrangell-St. Elias.
We'll be in Alaska the same time, from June 6-12. This time we'll just be visiting the Kenai Peninsula but I wish we had more time to visit Valdez and Wrangell-St. Elias.
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We have 12 days in Alaska in early June and have hired a car. After a night or two in Anchorage we will poddle down to the Kenai Peninsula with stops along the way. We have booked boat trips on Prince William Sound and Kenai Fjords and a flightseeing tour from Homer to see bears in Katmai. All that will be at a fairly leisurely pace and take up 6 days. We would like to spend the last 2 days in Denali (and it will take a day to get there, I guess).
That leaves about 3 days that we haven't planned yet. Our focus is on wild life, nature and scenery. We are open to most things including flying somewhere if it is warranted.
What would the veterans of Alaskan travel recommend? Thanks in advance.
That leaves about 3 days that we haven't planned yet. Our focus is on wild life, nature and scenery. We are open to most things including flying somewhere if it is warranted.
What would the veterans of Alaskan travel recommend? Thanks in advance.
Nome is an historic gold rush town on the Bering Sea - the end of the Iditarod race and still home to lots of daft gold miners including a bunch that mine the ocean bottom off the shoreline.
But unlike most other bush communities in Alaska, Nome has a limited road system, with several roads that head off into the tundra of the Seward Peninsula. You'll pass signs of previous gold mining, but for the most part the country is empty and stunning in its stark beauty. There are moose, caribou, muskoxen, bears, and a bazillion birds; wildflowers... it's a dramatic change from what you'll see on the rest of your visit.
You won't be far enough north for 24 hour sun, but you'll have "midnight sun" for sure, and it won't get dark at all. Hotel and vehicle rental prices (you'll need to google to find car sources) won't be terribly different from Anchorage, maybe even a little cheaper, but the experience will be one that few Alaska residents have, let alone visitors.
Guide to the local road network - http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm...ewardpeninsula
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If the mountain is visible (half or more of the time it isn't due to clouds) the view from Wonder Lake is great. However, in June, Wonder Lake is overwhelmed with mosquitoes; many people find it intolerable.
The Nome area will also have plenty of mosquitoes at that time; however they won't be too bad in town and near salt water, and if you're touring the road system you can keep the windows up. Bring plenty of bug dope regardless.
Not knowing where you're coming from on the way to Alaska or going after, one other idea might be to fly to Juneau at the end of the trip and get a sense for the southeastern part of the state. You can fly from Juneau to Seattle, or take a ferry to some other town and fly to Seattle from there (Sitka would be my choice.) Several options.
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Thanks again, Gardyloo.
Our coming and going is pretty much set in stone - we arrive and depart from ANC. Because of using award tickets I had to put that line in the sand at an early stage - before much planning had been done.
We had considered flying to Juneau. My partner is particularly fascinated with the boat tour of Glacier Bay from Gustavus. But it seems a very long detour for something that could be less than wonderful if the weather is poor.
From that point of view Nome sounds more forgiving. We would have a couple of days to just drive around soaking up whatever we come across. Sounds enjoyably laid back. But award seats are not available on dates that suit our itinerary so it would mean buying tickets.
Just a thought: is there anything even vaguely like that that is drivable from Anchorage?
Our coming and going is pretty much set in stone - we arrive and depart from ANC. Because of using award tickets I had to put that line in the sand at an early stage - before much planning had been done.
We had considered flying to Juneau. My partner is particularly fascinated with the boat tour of Glacier Bay from Gustavus. But it seems a very long detour for something that could be less than wonderful if the weather is poor.
From that point of view Nome sounds more forgiving. We would have a couple of days to just drive around soaking up whatever we come across. Sounds enjoyably laid back. But award seats are not available on dates that suit our itinerary so it would mean buying tickets.
Just a thought: is there anything even vaguely like that that is drivable from Anchorage?
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To be sure, there are native villages that you can reach on the road, and interesting mining towns (McCarthy, Hope.) But IMO they're not the same.
I did want to mention that the AS flights from ANC to OME stop in Kotzebue in one direction or the other (memory fails; it's easily checked.) Kotzebue IS above the arctic circle (and on an arm of the Arctic Ocean) and there you'd have actual 24h sun. Kotzebue is an important Inupiat Eskimo community, and has a comfortable hotel - http://www.nullagvikhotel.com/ - right across from the beach. You could take a day trip to a fish camp, visit the local native heritage center, and not even spend a night (ha ha.) The add-on airfare to include OTZ in the flight schedule isn't very much.
One possibility for a car-based excursion is to do a loop via Valdez. There's a state ferry that runs from Whittier across Prince William Sound to Valdez, and from Valdez you can drive on the Richardson Hwy to Fairbanks, then down to Denali and finally back to Anchorage. The ferry is quite scenic, and the Richardson between Valdez and Copper Center is one of the most scenic highways in North America. You could do this in either direction of course.
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Thanks again Gardyloo. Still thinking about Nome and the other possibilities.
I did look into the ferry loop (previously also kindly suggested by Big4Flyer). But the ferries only run every second day - and the schedules just happen to be out of synch with our dates making that impossible within our time constraints.
One possibility for a car-based excursion is to do a loop via Valdez. There's a state ferry that runs from Whittier across Prince William Sound to Valdez, and from Valdez you can drive on the Richardson Hwy to Fairbanks, then down to Denali and finally back to Anchorage. The ferry is quite scenic, and the Richardson between Valdez and Copper Center is one of the most scenic highways in North America. You could do this in either direction of course.
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Thanks again Gardyloo. Still thinking about Nome and the other possibilities.
I did look into the ferry loop (previously also kindly suggested by Big4Flyer). But the ferries only run every second day - and the schedules just happen to be out of synch with our dates making that impossible within our time constraints.
I did look into the ferry loop (previously also kindly suggested by Big4Flyer). But the ferries only run every second day - and the schedules just happen to be out of synch with our dates making that impossible within our time constraints.
Did you check both directions? As in, Valdez to Whittier as well as Whittier to Valdez, if the dates would work? Could drive the loop in either direction. I actually prefer the slow ferry, gives a better view. Hard to beat the sightseeing value.
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Thanks, I did indeed look at both directions and neither works.
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Just to wrap this up... we eventually moved things around so that we could take the ferry from Whittier to Valdez and drive back to Anchorage. It involved some backtracking and a lot of driving but we're really glad we we did it. We had (another) perfect day on Prince William Sound for the ferry and the drive back was amazing.
All in all an outstanding trip. The scenery is beyond anything one imagines - despite having seen it so often on film and pictures. Undoubtedly our most awesome (in the true sense of that word) experiences were various flight-seeing trips we did. Seeing the landscape from the air really exposes one to its incredible complexity and beauty.
Would love to go back. But for us it is an awfully long way away (and rather fiercely expensive!) so not very likely.
Thanks again for all the helpful and well-informed advice from this board! ^
All in all an outstanding trip. The scenery is beyond anything one imagines - despite having seen it so often on film and pictures. Undoubtedly our most awesome (in the true sense of that word) experiences were various flight-seeing trips we did. Seeing the landscape from the air really exposes one to its incredible complexity and beauty.
Would love to go back. But for us it is an awfully long way away (and rather fiercely expensive!) so not very likely.
Thanks again for all the helpful and well-informed advice from this board! ^
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Just to wrap this up... we eventually moved things around so that we could take the ferry from Whittier to Valdez and drive back to Anchorage. It involved some backtracking and a lot of driving but we're really glad we we did it. We had (another) perfect day on Prince William Sound for the ferry and the drive back was amazing.
All in all an outstanding trip. The scenery is beyond anything one imagines - despite having seen it so often on film and pictures. Undoubtedly our most awesome (in the true sense of that word) experiences were various flight-seeing trips we did. Seeing the landscape from the air really exposes one to its incredible complexity and beauty.
Would love to go back. But for us it is an awfully long way away (and rather fiercely expensive!) so not very likely.
Thanks again for all the helpful and well-informed advice from this board! ^
All in all an outstanding trip. The scenery is beyond anything one imagines - despite having seen it so often on film and pictures. Undoubtedly our most awesome (in the true sense of that word) experiences were various flight-seeing trips we did. Seeing the landscape from the air really exposes one to its incredible complexity and beauty.
Would love to go back. But for us it is an awfully long way away (and rather fiercely expensive!) so not very likely.
Thanks again for all the helpful and well-informed advice from this board! ^
I felt the same way you did about the flight-seeing flights. My wife and I both agreed that was the best money we ever spent on vacation. Seeing the remoteness and sheer expanse of the land is absolutely awe-inspiring.
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May I jump in here to ask a related question about a trip plan I'm putting together?
Likely visiting first couple of weeks of September for a couple of weeks. Anckorage arrival and departure; rental car. Current thinking is to head to Denali upon arrival for several days. Then head to Kanai Peninsula for several days in Homer then on to Seward before flying home.
Seeing posts above wondering if a better option might to head to Valdez after Denali for a couple of days. Take the ferry to Whittier and just do Seward area (not include Homer)?
We're primarily interested in easy hiking, sights, wildlife spotting, etc. Nothing too rigorous.
Thoughts? Thank you.
Likely visiting first couple of weeks of September for a couple of weeks. Anckorage arrival and departure; rental car. Current thinking is to head to Denali upon arrival for several days. Then head to Kanai Peninsula for several days in Homer then on to Seward before flying home.
Seeing posts above wondering if a better option might to head to Valdez after Denali for a couple of days. Take the ferry to Whittier and just do Seward area (not include Homer)?
We're primarily interested in easy hiking, sights, wildlife spotting, etc. Nothing too rigorous.
Thoughts? Thank you.
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May I jump in here to ask a related question about a trip plan I'm putting together?
Likely visiting first couple of weeks of September for a couple of weeks. Anckorage arrival and departure; rental car. Current thinking is to head to Denali upon arrival for several days. Then head to Kanai Peninsula for several days in Homer then on to Seward before flying home.
Seeing posts above wondering if a better option might to head to Valdez after Denali for a couple of days. Take the ferry to Whittier and just do Seward area (not include Homer)?
We're primarily interested in easy hiking, sights, wildlife spotting, etc. Nothing too rigorous.
Thoughts? Thank you.
Likely visiting first couple of weeks of September for a couple of weeks. Anckorage arrival and departure; rental car. Current thinking is to head to Denali upon arrival for several days. Then head to Kanai Peninsula for several days in Homer then on to Seward before flying home.
Seeing posts above wondering if a better option might to head to Valdez after Denali for a couple of days. Take the ferry to Whittier and just do Seward area (not include Homer)?
We're primarily interested in easy hiking, sights, wildlife spotting, etc. Nothing too rigorous.
Thoughts? Thank you.
The "first couple of weeks of September" are going to be at the absolute tail end of the season for Denali, so definitely go there first.
You're also going to be encountering autumn conditions and shortening daylight (also the weather can start turning poopy) so driving from Denali to Valdez (which will need to be either via Fairbanks or Palmer, not the Denali Hwy which is off limits to the car rental companies) is a full-day exercise, maybe even two days. The Richardson Hwy from Glennallen to Valdez is superbly scenic, which justifies that time; on the other hand, the drive down the Kenai Peninsula to Homer is okay but not in the same scenery league. (Although Homer itself certainly IS.)
But if a "couple of weeks" means 14 days, you have enough time for everything, weather notwithstanding.
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1 Arr Anchorage 2 Anchorage 3 To Denali 4 Denali 5 To Palmer 6 To Valdez 7 Ferry to Whittier 8 To Homer 9 Homer 10 To Seward 11 Seward 12 To Anchorage 13 Anchorage 14 Depart