surprised by availability of F seats on OAK-SNA
Mar 8, 2004, 10:16 am
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surprised by availability of F seats on OAK-SNA
Been flying this sector for the past few months on a weekly basis. Was surprised to see 3 empty seats on first on the OAK-SNA sector last night (sunday) on the 8:38pm flight. Never seen this in the past few months.
Wonder if this is a result of the new upgrade program. One would have thought these seats would have been filled up by MVPG's and MVP's...
Wonder if this is a result of the new upgrade program. One would have thought these seats would have been filled up by MVPG's and MVP's...
Mar 8, 2004, 7:57 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by azepine00:
Does Alaska give free op upgrades to non MVPs when they have F seats available?
I got one on oak-sna route but I think it was a very unusual turn of events. </font>
Does Alaska give free op upgrades to non MVPs when they have F seats available?
I got one on oak-sna route but I think it was a very unusual turn of events. </font>
Mar 10, 2004, 10:35 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by toadman:
There were 4 empty seats on my flight last week SNA-OAK. Could be that B6 is getting more biz out of LGB.</font>
There were 4 empty seats on my flight last week SNA-OAK. Could be that B6 is getting more biz out of LGB.</font>
Mar 11, 2004, 5:57 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by rjque:
I think it's more likely that most people flying this route just don't use AS all that much and therefore there are few MVP's. AS' Bay Area to SoCal service is terrible at best. I think AS has decided to concede the business traveller in this market to UA/WN and focus solely on the leisure traveller. Makes sense for routes like SFO-PSP (or SAN, please!) because of the relatively high leisure fares to those destinations. But BAY-SNA is packed with cheap seats - not sure why AS even keeps this route around (though I'm certainly happy that they do - easy FC upgrades for my occasional SNA trips).</font>
I think it's more likely that most people flying this route just don't use AS all that much and therefore there are few MVP's. AS' Bay Area to SoCal service is terrible at best. I think AS has decided to concede the business traveller in this market to UA/WN and focus solely on the leisure traveller. Makes sense for routes like SFO-PSP (or SAN, please!) because of the relatively high leisure fares to those destinations. But BAY-SNA is packed with cheap seats - not sure why AS even keeps this route around (though I'm certainly happy that they do - easy FC upgrades for my occasional SNA trips).</font>
Mar 11, 2004, 11:07 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by deeman:
Well, long as its that and it isnt that their electronic upgrade system is faulty. I wonder if there are any frustrated elite members on these flights...</font>
Well, long as its that and it isnt that their electronic upgrade system is faulty. I wonder if there are any frustrated elite members on these flights...</font>
I've never seen an empty F seat on any AS flight except SNA-OAK. Two weeks ago, on my SEA-OAK flight, there was one empty F seat as the gate agent came on board with the paperwork. The F flight attendant noticed the empty seat and proceded to move someone from coach to F. It didn't look like an employee (and I've never really seen a UA style 'employee class' up front on AS) so I assumed it was an MVPG stuck in the back.
Mar 12, 2004, 8:57 am
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I guess I'll find out later in the year. I fly this sector failry often and had upgraded myself till about april prior to the end of Feb (when they implemented the new upgrade rule).
After April I'll be in economy so I'll come back and complain if I dont get upgraded and there are empty seats!
After April I'll be in economy so I'll come back and complain if I dont get upgraded and there are empty seats!
Mar 12, 2004, 9:40 am
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Very interesting topic. As an MVPG, I have not been able to upgrade PDX-SNA 2x, due to the stop in OAK (F full PDX-OAK). I was surprised to see empty seats OAK-SNA and no offer from AS to upgrade that leg. Any ideas on how to get those seats midway?
Mar 12, 2004, 4:16 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by jammiecat:
Very interesting topic. As an MVPG, I have not been able to upgrade PDX-SNA 2x, due to the stop in OAK (F full PDX-OAK). I was surprised to see empty seats OAK-SNA and no offer from AS to upgrade that leg. Any ideas on how to get those seats midway?</font>
Very interesting topic. As an MVPG, I have not been able to upgrade PDX-SNA 2x, due to the stop in OAK (F full PDX-OAK). I was surprised to see empty seats OAK-SNA and no offer from AS to upgrade that leg. Any ideas on how to get those seats midway?</font>
Mar 12, 2004, 8:36 pm
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This is a wierd routing, in terms of UG's.
It seemed the more I flew last year the worse my chances. Historically, commutter (Monday AM and Thursday PM) were always full as well as weekenders (Friday afternoon/evening and Sunday evening).
But it seems all bets are off, SW takes a chunk as did UA getting the LAX thinkg taken care of.
It seemed the more I flew last year the worse my chances. Historically, commutter (Monday AM and Thursday PM) were always full as well as weekenders (Friday afternoon/evening and Sunday evening).
But it seems all bets are off, SW takes a chunk as did UA getting the LAX thinkg taken care of.