[Speculation] Flight Attendant Wearing Camera
Apr 29, 2023, 9:52 pm
#1
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[Speculation] Flight Attendant Wearing Camera
I searched but didn't see any posts yet about this. Last night I was flying SEA-LAS and one of the flight attendants had what I am pretty certain was a camera attached to her shirt.
It was a small, 2"x2" white box with some Alaska colors on it. It had a flashing green light. I think she was the lead FA.
Has anyone else seen this? I wonder if it is just a trial run on flights to Vegas.
It was a small, 2"x2" white box with some Alaska colors on it. It had a flashing green light. I think she was the lead FA.
Has anyone else seen this? I wonder if it is just a trial run on flights to Vegas.
Apr 29, 2023, 10:24 pm
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I am deeply interested in this.
Did you query that FA? Perhaps you could write into Alaska Listens for more information.
Did you query that FA? Perhaps you could write into Alaska Listens for more information.
Apr 29, 2023, 10:36 pm
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I searched but didn't see any posts yet about this. Last night I was flying SEA-LAS and one of the flight attendants had what I am pretty certain was a camera attached to her shirt.
It was a small, 2"x2" white box with some Alaska colors on it. It had a flashing green light. I think she was the lead FA.
Has anyone else seen this? I wonder if it is just a trial run on flights to Vegas.
It was a small, 2"x2" white box with some Alaska colors on it. It had a flashing green light. I think she was the lead FA.
Has anyone else seen this? I wonder if it is just a trial run on flights to Vegas.
Apr 29, 2023, 10:47 pm
#4
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Maybe a "body cam" like most police departments are using?
Apr 29, 2023, 11:01 pm
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Yes, a body cam.
It had a dial/button on the right side, a camera lens, and then a small green flashing light. Mostly white with a blue and green overlapping circle like you might see on some of their advertising materials.
Apr 29, 2023, 11:07 pm
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Is there language or a notice buried into the ticket agreement somewhere that the passenger agrees to be recorded via video camera at any time during their travel? I know the airports have cameras everywhere and that fact is disclosed on the doors or near the doors of most airports as it is a legal requirement to inform the public when they are being recorded.
Could this have been a device related to the headset that the flight attendants use to communicate with each other as they are in different areas of the airplane?
I don't really like the sound of the flight attendant having a video recording device as they walk through the plane, but maybe this is where we are at as a society now in the US.
Could this have been a device related to the headset that the flight attendants use to communicate with each other as they are in different areas of the airplane?
I don't really like the sound of the flight attendant having a video recording device as they walk through the plane, but maybe this is where we are at as a society now in the US.
Apr 30, 2023, 12:43 am
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Body cams are becoming popular in more lines of work than just police. I do home inspections and keep in touch with a lot of others nationwide and wearing them at inspections is pretty popular these days. Mainly to document what was visible at the time of the inspection. A common thing is for a buyer to move into a house and accuse us of missing a defect that was concealed and it's just our word against theirs about what was present at the time of the inspection. The body cam solves that one in an instant. In any case with all the problems with problematic passengers these days it wouldn't surprise me at all if FAs started wearing cameras.
Apr 30, 2023, 7:23 am
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Is there language or a notice buried into the ticket agreement somewhere that the passenger agrees to be recorded via video camera at any time during their travel? I know the airports have cameras everywhere and that fact is disclosed on the doors or near the doors of most airports as it is a legal requirement to inform the public when they are being recorded.
Could this have been a device related to the headset that the flight attendants use to communicate with each other as they are in different areas of the airplane?
I don't really like the sound of the flight attendant having a video recording device as they walk through the plane, but maybe this is where we are at as a society now in the US.
Could this have been a device related to the headset that the flight attendants use to communicate with each other as they are in different areas of the airplane?
I don't really like the sound of the flight attendant having a video recording device as they walk through the plane, but maybe this is where we are at as a society now in the US.
Apr 30, 2023, 7:39 am
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They are not considered public places as they are mostly private property and airlines can apply rules to what they allow photo / video wise.
Apr 30, 2023, 8:28 am
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"Public place" means that portion of any building or vehicle used by and open to the public, regardless of whether the building or vehicle is owned in whole or in part by private persons or entities, the state of Washington, or other public entity, and regardless of whether a fee is charged for admission, and includes a presumptively reasonable minimum distance, as set forth in RCW 70.160.075, of twenty-five feet from entrances, exits, windows that open, and ventilation intakes that serve an enclosed area where smoking is prohibited. A public place does not include a private residence unless the private residence is used to provide licensed child care, foster care, adult care, or other similar social service care on the premises.
Apr 30, 2023, 8:31 am
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Personally, I think it's kind of unfair where "they" make video but "we" can't. However, as mentioned above, it's on private property and, far as I know, I see nothing illegal about it.
PS - Of course, not a lawyer and can't recall reading anything lawyerly.
PS 2 - You know what, in the end, I don't care either way. I mean, I almost live in Vegas and have been on CCTV probably my entire adult life, and it's not as if in a gazillion years I'd ever be captured on video doing anything inappropriate or illegal, aside from dozing off before the safety demo. Perhaps, they could fine me for that with the all encompassing Fed law FA stuff?
PS - Of course, not a lawyer and can't recall reading anything lawyerly.
PS 2 - You know what, in the end, I don't care either way. I mean, I almost live in Vegas and have been on CCTV probably my entire adult life, and it's not as if in a gazillion years I'd ever be captured on video doing anything inappropriate or illegal, aside from dozing off before the safety demo. Perhaps, they could fine me for that with the all encompassing Fed law FA stuff?
Apr 30, 2023, 1:11 pm
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My former employer has most people working in the field wearing cameras as altercations with insane homeowners and landowners have been on the upswing since 2020 when more people have been at home during the day.
Apr 30, 2023, 1:58 pm
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I hope it was a cam and I hope it becomes common place. Too many morons behaving like morons. Maybe this would help deter some of this behavior.
Apr 30, 2023, 3:04 pm
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Could be used to review any disputes or crashes. In the event of a dispute it is often a "He said, She said" situation and maybe a body cam could be used as evidence. Did you call the airline to ask? Would be curious to know if it was actually a body cam or just a weird looking accessory.
Apr 30, 2023, 3:21 pm
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There are no cams that have been put in place by the airlines on planes at this point that any of the FA’s have been made aware of. Per the contract they would need to know of them. That said, we all know there are plenty of cams - YouTube is evidence of that. Everyone has a cell cam these days and they're always recording stuff.
Last edited by AS Flyer; Apr 30, 2023 at 3:55 pm