book Y then pay to select F seat?

Old Apr 12, 23, 3:47 pm
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book Y then pay to select F seat?

my company won't reimburse F, even the amount that Y would have cost. If I book Y, can I then pay to select an F seat and will the total be about what an F seat would have cost in the first place?

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Old Apr 12, 23, 3:59 pm
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Originally Posted by psychtobe
my company won't reimburse F, even the amount that Y would have cost. If I book Y, can I then pay to select an F seat and will the total be about what an F seat would have cost in the first place?
I dont think you would do it during seat selection. I think you would book Y, print the receipt, and then change the flight to F.
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Old Apr 12, 23, 4:04 pm
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Originally Posted by twitch76
I dont think you would do it during seat selection. I think you would book Y, print the receipt, and then change the flight to F.
I second this. Many airlines allow you to upgrade after booking within the seat selection process. AS is not one of them. You have to exchange your Y ticket for an F one.
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Old Apr 12, 23, 4:38 pm
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Originally Posted by twitch76
... book Y, print the receipt, and then change the flight to F.
Originally Posted by AKLifetimeFlyer
I second this. Many airlines allow you to “upgrade” after booking within the seat selection process. AS is not one of them. You have to exchange your Y ticket for an F one.
exactly

that said, cue the nay-sayers who will advise OP about potentially violating corporate travel and/or ethics policy (submitting a false receipt with an expense report), even though the difference between expensed Y and flown F came out of OP's own pocket

speaking as one who has traveled on business for 10 employers over ~40 years, and who has done this more than a few times, I have only had a handful of inquiries from people in the approval/accounting/audit chain about a ticket number mismatch, but *never* has *anyone* rejected my answer: "Ticket was reissued when I paid for an upgrade out of personal funds"

​​​​​​​in the old days of paper tickets, UA was far better than other airlines about returning the original passenger coupon (receipt) after an exchange at the airport or a city ticket office

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Old Apr 12, 23, 5:23 pm
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Just another vote for "ticket then call in and upgrade". We use Concur so that books the flight, then I call in and upfare to whatever J class ticket is available. The agents see this every day, they know what's up.
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Old Apr 12, 23, 6:22 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767
exactly

that said, cue the nay-sayers who will advise OP about potentially violating corporate travel and/or ethics policy (submitting a false receipt with an expense report), even though the difference between expensed Y and flown F came out of OP's own pocket

speaking as one who has traveled on business for 10 employers over ~40 years, and who has done this more than a few times, I have only had a handful of inquiries from people in the approval/accounting/audit chain about a ticket number mismatch, but *never* has *anyone* rejected my answer: "Ticket was reissued when I paid for an upgrade out of personal funds"

​​​​​​​in the old days of paper tickets, UA was far better than other airlines about returning the original passenger coupon (receipt) after an exchange at the airport or a city ticket office

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It's more about your company's policy than anything else.

At some companies they have been fine with me booking F and reimbursing me based on a screenshot that shows the cheapest Y flight.

And some companies expressly prohibit paid upgrades, even if you pay for them yourself. Luckily I've never worked at one of those.

And most have policies somewhere in between.

Personally I would be ok violating a policy like this, but then again I've never really valued my job that much. My approach has always been that if they don't like it I can go work somewhere else. But I would not necessarily recommend that approach to anyone else, without knowing their situation.
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Old Apr 12, 23, 6:25 pm
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Just another vote for "ticket then call in and upgrade". We use Concur so that books the flight, then I call in and upfare to whatever J class ticket is available.
I'm also a Concur captive by policy ... company has negotiated discounts with the majors (AA, DL, UA); I am *not* complaining about the fact that the discount pulls through to the DL app when I want to change (i.e., upfare) a Concur-booked itinerary

AS IT doesn't allow changing a Concur booking (or, presumably, one from *any* agency) on either the app or website -- "This reservation is ineligible for online changes" -- but, thankfully, so far AS has never tried to charge a fee to take over an external booking
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Old Apr 12, 23, 6:40 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler
It's more about your company's policy than anything else.

At some companies they have been fine with me booking F and reimbursing me based on a screenshot that shows the cheapest Y flight. ...
under these circumstances where they absolutely won't reimburse F/J without two or three or four levels of management/leadership approval (and usually those have to be in advance), it's not difficult to find a Y fare that's rather more than the default but still within policy

I don't recall the exact itinerary, but a couple months ago the Concur search returned the lowest Y fare (~$187) on NK with a 5-hour layover in LAS and a midnight arrival ... a reasonably-timed connection on DL was ~$310 (with F ~$460), and "Lowest Logical Fare" was DL nonstop at ~$385
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Old Apr 12, 23, 7:19 pm
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Originally Posted by psychtobe
my company won't reimburse F, even the amount that Y would have cost. If I book Y, can I then pay to select an F seat and will the total be about what an F seat would have cost in the first place?
Is this the same scenario where you're just trying to get into a lounge? You are adding layers of things that might go wrong. The lounge is really not worth it.
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Old Apr 12, 23, 9:21 pm
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Is this the same scenario where you're just trying to get into a lounge? You are adding layers of things that might go wrong. The lounge is really not worth it.
uh, no.
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Old Apr 13, 23, 3:24 am
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Originally Posted by jrl767
under these circumstances where they absolutely won't reimburse F/J without two or three or four levels of management/leadership approval (and usually those have to be in advance), it's not difficult to find a Y fare that's rather more than the default but still within policy

I don't recall the exact itinerary, but a couple months ago the Concur search returned the lowest Y fare (~$187) on NK with a 5-hour layover in LAS and a midnight arrival ... a reasonably-timed connection on DL was ~$310 (with F ~$460), and "Lowest Logical Fare" was DL nonstop at ~$385
I feel like Concur shouldnt even consider fares on Spirit or Frontier. Should not be taking business trips on those airlines.
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Old Apr 13, 23, 4:13 am
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Originally Posted by nd2010
I feel like Concur shouldnt even consider companies should require their instances of Concur to exclude fares on Spirit or Frontier. ...
minor technicality: Concur is a widely-used service platform that company travel departments can customize, so it isn't up to the provider (SAP) to determine what results any particular search returns
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Old Apr 14, 23, 2:22 pm
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Originally Posted by nd2010
I feel like Concur shouldnt even consider fares on Spirit or Frontier. Should not be taking business trips on those airlines.
Our company has specifically excluded Spirit and Frontier from "lowest logical fare" rules, so you aren't forced to ride the bus. But then going a step further, we won't even allow booking on Allegiant or Sun Country.
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