AS Plans to Transition to All 737 for Mainline and All E75 for Regional by Jan. 2024
#32
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Let's not go there. The topic has been beaten to death. I like the 321s too, but AS has made the decisions it's made about the product it's going to offer and we can either live with it or find another airline.
#34
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: SoCal,
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Some of your posts confuse me about AS. I’ll admit, since being retired for 4 years, even with friends, one neighbor, still flying, I don’t have the big picture. I know they have a set number of pilots that they want in the cockpit this year. Nothing that’s been communicated to me has shown they are looking to reduce either the size or number of new hire pilot classes. From my side of the fence, I’ve been told simplifying to a single fleet is to save money. The 321’s might be easier to dump now than expected and the Q’s are becoming maint drains, nothing more. Difficulty in finding qualified pilot applicants is effecting all airlines. Certainly AS more than AA/DL/UA for obvious reasons. Is your post a guess? Or are you more connected to the pilot group than I believe?
#35
Join Date: May 2003
Location: SFO, mostly
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How many Max frames are they scheduled to receive over the next year? Is it enough to compensate one-for-one for the departing A320s, or is there a temporary dip in fleet count until the new planes finish arriving?
#36
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There are 29 more -9’s coming this year with 8’s scheduled to be delivered 1st Quarter 2023.
#37
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It was mentioned at investor day that there weren't going to be any dropped cities but I find it hard to see how that works with such a reduction in the QX fleet. They do have close to 30 options on the e175 that they could exercise but not by 2023. At this point it would seem that a lot of the multiple Q flights will probably be reduced to single Ejets. I would also expect the PDX and GEG shuttle service to SEA to get frequency cuts but with larger aircraft.
#38
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Lol, C’mon. I’ll say it again, I don’t think you have a clue as to the AS hours of AC utilization. But, if I’m wrong, please correct me, even if it’s via DM. I’m starting to kinda wonder if maybe you’re a current AS employee with more info than I? If so, I apologize for being so short, because I know the internal AS is not what customers see. And I can appreciate wanting anonymity. Just curious because the only info I get are pilot rumors, and what they post on the employee/retiree web site and not much of it corroborates with your posts.
#39
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Hopefully I'll find an inexpensive reason to fly the Q400 before they leave the fleet. I've really enjoyed them on the shorter routes, especially with the free beer and wine. They were also once considered the way to lower costs on routes less than 300 miles.
WN has shown that it can operate with an all 737 fleet and be profitable, so it makes sense that AS will try that again. Maybe AS will even arrange a special event for the last Airbus and Q400 flights like DL does with its domestic fleet retirements.
WN has shown that it can operate with an all 737 fleet and be profitable, so it makes sense that AS will try that again. Maybe AS will even arrange a special event for the last Airbus and Q400 flights like DL does with its domestic fleet retirements.
#40
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 702
I'd recommend you let AS senior leadership know your thoughts on the mid cabin lav, as the interior design/layout for the MAX 10 fleet hasn't been finalized yet, and you can bet your sweet bippy those are doing transcons all day long.
#41
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Some of your posts confuse me about AS. I’ll admit, since being retired for 4 years, even with friends, one neighbor, still flying, I don’t have the big picture. I know they have a set number of pilots that they want in the cockpit this year. Nothing that’s been communicated to me has shown they are looking to reduce either the size or number of new hire pilot classes. From my side of the fence, I’ve been told simplifying to a single fleet is to save money. The 321’s might be easier to dump now than expected and the Q’s are becoming maint drains, nothing more. Difficulty in finding qualified pilot applicants is effecting all airlines. Certainly AS more than AA/DL/UA for obvious reasons. Is your post a guess? Or are you more connected to the pilot group than I believe?
AS is also paying double time to flight attendants as demand is exceeding the staffing they have available-- so it is not just a matter of staffing pilots but also flight attendants, etc. They have also had trouble retaining ground staff so less flights while slightly expanding overall available seats can help with that as well.
#43
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I'm long past understanding the current DAL strategy, especially the single DAL-SEA flight. Most DFW-SEA are routinely 90+% full so there seems to be demand.
If I were Senior Executive Group VP of Network Planning, there would be three mainline DAL-SEA, two mainline DAL-LAX and two E75 DAL-SFO.
If I were Senior Executive Group VP of Network Planning, there would be three mainline DAL-SEA, two mainline DAL-LAX and two E75 DAL-SFO.
#44
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Also, (to me, at least), the use of the few A321s regularly on SFO <=> JFK and SEA <=> JFK (the most "premium" NYC airport) seems to suggest that Alaska realizes these aircraft are nicer than their others. Making it more disappointing that they're hoping to get rid of 'em soon...