FA Access to Passenger Profiles/Records
#1
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FA Access to Passenger Profiles/Records
Just had a FA apologize that I’ve had four cancelled flights so far this year that she pulled up on her device. Just curious as to what kind of access FAs have for our passenger profiles and flying records, and if there is a way for us to access our own records/profiles on the app or website (I didn’t even realize you could see how many cancelled flights you’ve had)?
#2
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See this post: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/33977999-post93.html
There was more context and discussion earlier in the thread.
There was more context and discussion earlier in the thread.
#3
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What kind of info do they have access to? Is it just service failures, or all travel history? Waiting to deplane this weekend, one of the flight attendants made a comment about me going back and forth to Hawaii a lot, which I do, but I was a little surprised that she knew that. I have had several trips impacted by the January cutbacks from the bay area to Hawaii.
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Just had a FA apologize that I’ve had four cancelled flights so far this year that she pulled up on her device. Just curious as to what kind of access FAs have for our passenger profiles and flying records, and if there is a way for us to access our own records/profiles on the app or website (I didn’t even realize you could see how many cancelled flights you’ve had)?
What kind of info do they have access to? Is it just service failures, or all travel history? Waiting to deplane this weekend, one of the flight attendants made a comment about me going back and forth to Hawaii a lot, which I do, but I was a little surprised that she knew that. I have had several trips impacted by the January cutbacks from the bay area to Hawaii.
The FAs only see that flight and connecting flights. There is information on any recent trip failures, so as they can apologize and potentially offer a service gesture. They cannot see personal information. They don’t have access to your travel activity (past or future) beyond connecting flights and recent (greater than 60 day window) failures (e.g. delays, cancellations).On their work devices, the FAs have access to a different app than the one that is publicly available for pax.
Last edited by anteater; Feb 10, 2022 at 9:48 am
#5
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See this post: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/33977999-post93.html
There was more context and discussion earlier in the thread.
There was more context and discussion earlier in the thread.
A copy and paste (mostly) from my post in the other thread, cheers.
The FAs only see that flight and connecting flights. There is information on any recent trip failures, so as they can apologize and potentially offer a service gesture. They cannot see personal information. They don’t have access to your travel activity (past or future) beyond connecting flights and recent (greater than 60 day window) failures (e.g. delays, cancellations).On their work devices, the FAs have access to a different app than the one that is publicly available for pax.
The FAs only see that flight and connecting flights. There is information on any recent trip failures, so as they can apologize and potentially offer a service gesture. They cannot see personal information. They don’t have access to your travel activity (past or future) beyond connecting flights and recent (greater than 60 day window) failures (e.g. delays, cancellations).On their work devices, the FAs have access to a different app than the one that is publicly available for pax.
#6
Join Date: Dec 2017
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I experienced this for the first time recently and it felt very strange. Towards the end of the flight, I had my headphones in watching a movie when the FA walked down the aisle to collect trash. After I handed over my empty cup, she remarked, "You've been having a tough time lately." I paused the movie and took off my headphones, wondering whether I'd heard her correctly, or if she was somehow rudely remarking on my drink order, or what else had happened. She noticed my confusion and added, "I saw all the delays and cancellations." (She didn't have her phone with her at the time, so I presume she read my profile in the galley before coming down the aisle.)
I'd had a few flights since the IRROPs (all in F) and nobody had said anything to me. This awkward comment aside, the FA (from Skywest) was fantastic. As soon as we reached 10k feet, she immediately approached the bulkhead passengers to ask if they needed any of their personal items out of the overhead bin; she took all 12 drink orders in a single pass without writing them down and correctly remembered everyone's; and there were multiple rounds of service in the short 60-min flight. I assume she probably strictly followed whatever memo from AS instructed her to check and comment on travel history.
I'll likely write in to CC about this. I think giving the FAs a few suggested prompts could have greatly improved this interaction. ("On behalf of Alaska Airlines, I'd like to thank you for your loyalty, and apologize for the delay you experienced flying from XXX to YYY. I'm going to do everything I can to make sure we get you in on time tonight.")
I'd had a few flights since the IRROPs (all in F) and nobody had said anything to me. This awkward comment aside, the FA (from Skywest) was fantastic. As soon as we reached 10k feet, she immediately approached the bulkhead passengers to ask if they needed any of their personal items out of the overhead bin; she took all 12 drink orders in a single pass without writing them down and correctly remembered everyone's; and there were multiple rounds of service in the short 60-min flight. I assume she probably strictly followed whatever memo from AS instructed her to check and comment on travel history.
I'll likely write in to CC about this. I think giving the FAs a few suggested prompts could have greatly improved this interaction. ("On behalf of Alaska Airlines, I'd like to thank you for your loyalty, and apologize for the delay you experienced flying from XXX to YYY. I'm going to do everything I can to make sure we get you in on time tonight.")
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I assume she probably strictly followed whatever memo from AS instructed her to check and comment on travel history.
I'll likely write in to CC about this. I think giving the FAs a few suggested prompts could have greatly improved this interaction. ("On behalf of Alaska Airlines, I'd like to thank you for your loyalty, and apologize for the delay you experienced flying from XXX to YYY. I'm going to do everything I can to make sure we get you in on time tonight.")
I'll likely write in to CC about this. I think giving the FAs a few suggested prompts could have greatly improved this interaction. ("On behalf of Alaska Airlines, I'd like to thank you for your loyalty, and apologize for the delay you experienced flying from XXX to YYY. I'm going to do everything I can to make sure we get you in on time tonight.")
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#9
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I'll likely write in to CC about this. I think giving the FAs a few suggested prompts could have greatly improved this interaction. ("On behalf of Alaska Airlines, I'd like to thank you for your loyalty, and apologize for the delay you experienced flying from XXX to YYY. I'm going to do everything I can to make sure we get you in on time tonight.")
#10
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I understand that this is meant as a joke, but it's a serious privacy issue. Airline employees should not be sharing my previous travel with surrounding passengers. Discretion is important in any service industry.
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Agreed. It’s frankly also a bit creepy to imagine an FA sitting in the jump seat scrolling through my recent travel history, even if it’s just flights that had disruptions.
#12
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nobody is sitting around looking at anyone's recent travel histories on the airplanes. The only thing FA's can see is if you have been inconvenienced at some point in recent history. Nothing beyond that. It's meant as an opportunity for service recovery - to try to help make it better. Honestly, I think it's not a great idea because not every FA will do it and those that do will handle it differently. It just leads to inconsistency and expectations that may not be met by every crew. If anyone prefers that this method of service recovery not be used, I suggest you write to Alaska management to let them know.
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It's meant as an opportunity for service recovery - to try to help make it better. Honestly, I think it's not a great idea because not every FA will do it and those that do will handle it differently. It just leads to inconsistency and expectations that may not be met by every crew.
#14
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Right. If AS thinks that some disruptions require a personal sounding apology (perhaps based on the frequency of issues or severity, combined with status), have some customer service agent write a short email note with a voucher. Also avoids the issue of different treatment of travelers sitting near each other who all may think they have had “a tough time lately”.
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The other thing that bothers me: making FAs apologize for problems that they have no control over. They are onboard for our safety (and I am not being sarcastic) as well as to provide snacks and beverages. If they do that, and with a smile and efficiently, as they usually do, I am a happy customer. If the flight is delayed or canceled, I do not hold it against them. Or the pilots. And I certainly don’t expect the FAs on the next flight to apologize for it based on some algorithm that tells them so. I know, one team and all, but it just doesn’t make sense to me.