[Speculation] New AA Codeshares Coming?
Apr 29, 2021, 5:12 pm
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[Speculation] New AA Codeshares Coming?
I was surprised to see two late August/early September itineraries get massively rescheduled this week, both involving major transcon routes (SFO - NYC and LAX - NYC), with the AS service on those routes getting reduced to virtually nothing. Service from LAX to JFK is down to a single daily flight (departing at 7:05 am) and LAX to EWR has been reduced even more, now just 5 days a week (at 7:00 am). Similarly, SFO - JFK is reduced to a single daily flight (departing at 9:00 am) and SFO - EWR is now just 5 days a week (departing at 6:30 am).
I initially assumed that the flight change alerts on the app were erroneous (surely no-one would change a 3pm departure to a 7am departure without triggering a courtesy call or an email, I mistakenly thought), but now I wonder whether such a hollowing out of AS's schedule is in anticipation of offering AA's more frequent transcon flight services as codeshares. Is this just wishful thinking?
I initially assumed that the flight change alerts on the app were erroneous (surely no-one would change a 3pm departure to a 7am departure without triggering a courtesy call or an email, I mistakenly thought), but now I wonder whether such a hollowing out of AS's schedule is in anticipation of offering AA's more frequent transcon flight services as codeshares. Is this just wishful thinking?
Apr 29, 2021, 6:24 pm
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It is unlikely. AA/B6 are codeshare partners and can coordinate schedules on flights out of the North East. AA is all in with B6 on those routes leaving little room for AS. AA already said B6 is currently its biggest codeshare partner and they have lots of flights they need to add at LGA/JFK to avoid losing slots.
Just flew B6 last night from SFO-JFK and returning tomorrow from BOS—both in mint. Flights totally sold out—mint sold out two weeks in advance. If AS can’t make these work during the summer when demand is high and capacity is still not up to pre-Covid levels, they will have a very rough time during the winter when capacity is higher on competitors and overall demand is lower during the off season.
Really interested to see what AS does later in the year when the slot waivers go away at JFK.
Just flew B6 last night from SFO-JFK and returning tomorrow from BOS—both in mint. Flights totally sold out—mint sold out two weeks in advance. If AS can’t make these work during the summer when demand is high and capacity is still not up to pre-Covid levels, they will have a very rough time during the winter when capacity is higher on competitors and overall demand is lower during the off season.
Really interested to see what AS does later in the year when the slot waivers go away at JFK.
Apr 29, 2021, 6:51 pm
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I was surprised to see two late August/early September itineraries get massively rescheduled this week, both involving major transcon routes (SFO - NYC and LAX - NYC), with the AS service on those routes getting reduced to virtually nothing. Service from LAX to JFK is down to a single daily flight (departing at 7:05 am) and LAX to EWR has been reduced even more, now just 5 days a week (at 7:00 am). Similarly, SFO - JFK is reduced to a single daily flight (departing at 9:00 am) and SFO - EWR is now just 5 days a week (departing at 6:30 am).
I initially assumed that the flight change alerts on the app were erroneous (surely no-one would change a 3pm departure to a 7am departure without triggering a courtesy call or an email, I mistakenly thought), but now I wonder whether such a hollowing out of AS's schedule is in anticipation of offering AA's more frequent transcon flight services as codeshares. Is this just wishful thinking?
I initially assumed that the flight change alerts on the app were erroneous (surely no-one would change a 3pm departure to a 7am departure without triggering a courtesy call or an email, I mistakenly thought), but now I wonder whether such a hollowing out of AS's schedule is in anticipation of offering AA's more frequent transcon flight services as codeshares. Is this just wishful thinking?
time change on AS to to JFK would be able to do AA connections from there for domestic and for international routes to Europe.
Apr 29, 2021, 11:05 pm
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I think this is more of AS failing to make these transcons work. AA doesn't even fly from EWR to the west coast. Good thing they spent a few billions to acquire VX. Who knows what their SFO/LAX transcons would be looking like now if they hadn't. 
Apr 30, 2021, 1:29 am
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have you even followed or read any of the merger justification that went through their board, the FTC, and so much more?
Forget the pandemic, none of these actions are even a step away from the plans they publicly shared together.
Forget the pandemic, none of these actions are even a step away from the plans they publicly shared together.
Apr 30, 2021, 5:33 am
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I was surprised to see two late August/early September itineraries get massively rescheduled this week, both involving major transcon routes (SFO - NYC and LAX - NYC), with the AS service on those routes getting reduced to virtually nothing. Service from LAX to JFK is down to a single daily flight (departing at 7:05 am) and LAX to EWR has been reduced even more, now just 5 days a week (at 7:00 am). Similarly, SFO - JFK is reduced to a single daily flight (departing at 9:00 am) and SFO - EWR is now just 5 days a week (departing at 6:30 am).
I initially assumed that the flight change alerts on the app were erroneous (surely no-one would change a 3pm departure to a 7am departure without triggering a courtesy call or an email, I mistakenly thought), but now I wonder whether such a hollowing out of AS's schedule is in anticipation of offering AA's more frequent transcon flight services as codeshares. Is this just wishful thinking?
I initially assumed that the flight change alerts on the app were erroneous (surely no-one would change a 3pm departure to a 7am departure without triggering a courtesy call or an email, I mistakenly thought), but now I wonder whether such a hollowing out of AS's schedule is in anticipation of offering AA's more frequent transcon flight services as codeshares. Is this just wishful thinking?
AA can coordinate schedule with B6 on these flights. Why would it do codeshare with AS, when it now has 15 flights a day on JFK-LAX with those B6 codeshares? If you want to accumulate miles with AS, just book the AA flights.