AS' Membership in the oneworld Alliance - Benefits, Policies and Problems
#106
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#107
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#108
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Is AS like some of the other airlines' websites in which you can add the profiles of other people (like family and other people you buy tickets for) as well as yourself? If so, I take it that one can add an additional profile for oneself and insert their AA elite FF number in it. And solve the problem one poster was complaining about OW not being as universal in its elite benefits as he wants it to be.
#109
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
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Is AS like some of the other airlines' websites in which you can add the profiles of other people (like family and other people you buy tickets for) as well as yourself? If so, I take it that one can add an additional profile for oneself and insert their AA elite FF number in it. And solve the problem one poster was complaining about OW not being as universal in its elite benefits as he wants it to be.
On the Account page (full website) at the bottom of the left column, click on "Personal info and companions" under the "Profile and Setting" header. You can add a companion there. That companion can be a "spitting image" of yourself sporting a different FF#.
But that isn't necessary for revenue tickets since you can change programs, on the fly, or have multiple Mileage Programs attached to your "Myself" profile. You can also disassociate a program and leave the FF# blank.
For AS award redemptions, you can't change the program from Mileage Plan, but using the "spitting image" method mentioned above (easier than entering your information each time) or entering a "New Passenger" during the booking process will allow you to leave the MP account number blank.
On the fly:
During the booking process when you get to "Checkout: Passenger information" it should be pre-populated with your "Myself" account information. To the right, the "Mileage program and number" will have your Alaska Airlines & Account number populated by default. It is a drop-down list. If you don't want to have any program associated to the itinerary, click to drop-down and select "None" from the list.
Just below that, there is a link "Add mileage program." Click, select the program & add your account number. Once saved, "Mileage program and number" with the new program will be selected. You can drop-down to select other programs or None.
Saving multiple programs to your "Myprofile"
To save your other programs to your profile for easy one-click access during booking. On the Account page (full website) at the bottom of the left column, click on "Programs" under the "Profile and Setting" header. In the right column, expand "Programs." Click +Add a partner number, select your Partner airline & add your Partner Loyalty Number, then click Save.
Now during checkout, you can quickly choose whichever program you want.
James
Last edited by Flying for Fun; Apr 12, 2021 at 2:10 am
#110
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Hope that helps, Flying for Fun gave you the definitive skinny. Or you can just call AS and theyll swap it in for you.
The one situation not covered is AA booking on miles, AA metal, AS status. Apparently AA wont help you there with using OAL status, but if it was, say, a QR or AS metal booking, just change the PNR on the airline you are flying, everyone in OW is either Amadeus with a separate PNR, or, in the case of AS, incompatible SABRE with a separate PNR.
The one situation not covered is AA booking on miles, AA metal, AS status. Apparently AA wont help you there with using OAL status, but if it was, say, a QR or AS metal booking, just change the PNR on the airline you are flying, everyone in OW is either Amadeus with a separate PNR, or, in the case of AS, incompatible SABRE with a separate PNR.
#111
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: LAX/ONT
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I remember there is a oneworld benefits thread going on, or is it merged into this one?
Just a data point. Booked a ticket on Finnair on Economy to CPH thru HEL. Seat selection cost extra, but I can select seats (not those extra leg rooms) once chatted with the agent. Normally, they charge a fee for selecting any seat, even the middle seats.
Just a data point. Booked a ticket on Finnair on Economy to CPH thru HEL. Seat selection cost extra, but I can select seats (not those extra leg rooms) once chatted with the agent. Normally, they charge a fee for selecting any seat, even the middle seats.
#112
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I remember there is a Oneworld benefits thread going on, or is it merged into this one?
Just a data point. Booked a ticket on Finnair on Economy to CPH thru HEL. Seat selection cost extra, but I can select seats (not those extra leg rooms) once chatted with the agent. Normally, they charge a fee for selecting any seat, even the middle seats.
Just a data point. Booked a ticket on Finnair on Economy to CPH thru HEL. Seat selection cost extra, but I can select seats (not those extra leg rooms) once chatted with the agent. Normally, they charge a fee for selecting any seat, even the middle seats.
If you booked a "basic economy" type ticket that can have restrictions.
Last edited by dayone; Apr 21, 2021 at 5:47 pm Reason: Remove circular link after merge.
#113
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: LAX/ONT
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I just noticed something very interesting. Once the agent assigned me a seat, I can select all seats excluding their premium economy product (equivalent to PC here). However, I cannot do so on my outbound from LAX-HEL, but I can for my inbound HEL-LAX. All segments are in their O fare class, a $350 dollar ticket still earns 50% base miles! The only difference I could tell is the fare basis (outbound is OLW4T1S5 and inbound is OLX4T1S5). Both are in their Economy Classic (better than Economy Lite, worse than Economy Flex). I'll wait and see if thing will change once I'm OWE later in the year.
Outbound on AY2, all seats are locked.
Inbound on AY1, all are open other than Economy Comfort
Outbound on AY2, all seats are locked.
Inbound on AY1, all are open other than Economy Comfort
#114
Join Date: Oct 2010
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My assumption is that AS will not change how they're off-loading bags to prioritize these as the 20 min guarantee is still in place and pretty quick, but instead will be useful for checking bags through to connections on OW partners that do offer priority bag service..
#115
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Denver,CO, USA
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No multiple oneworld partner bookings without AS flight in itinerary?
I was hoping to book an award DEN to LIM on Latam and AA. I called and eventually transferred to partner desk and was told this would not be valid (as was the case prior to joining oneworld). Seems like they should allow awards on multiple oneworld partners without AS segments.
#116
Join Date: Sep 2011
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I was hoping to book an award DEN to LIM on Latam and AA. I called and eventually transferred to partner desk and was told this would not be valid (as was the case prior to joining oneworld). Seems like they should allow awards on multiple oneworld partners without AS segments.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/alaska-oneworld-faqs/
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I was hoping to book an award DEN to LIM on Latam and AA. I called and eventually transferred to partner desk and was told this would not be valid (as was the case prior to joining oneworld). Seems like they should allow awards on multiple oneworld partners without AS segments.
As above AS has not yet issued new award charts.
#118
Join Date: Mar 2017
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I was hoping to book an award DEN to LIM on Latam and AA. I called and eventually transferred to partner desk and was told this would not be valid (as was the case prior to joining oneworld). Seems like they should allow awards on multiple oneworld partners without AS segments.
Of course, what the redemptions will cost in MP Miles and if stopovers will still be permitted is unknown at this time.
In the interim, AS will include flights to the LA gateway. MCO, JFK & LAX are all served by AS. However, MIA is not. I would see if you can do an AS open jaw, through or stopover, AS into FLL & LA MIA-LIM. The other option would be a revenue flight to the gateway if flying North to go South isn't appealing.
James
Last edited by Flying for Fun; Apr 24, 2021 at 2:54 pm
#119
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For example BA and QF do ( https://www.australianfrequentflyer....e-thread.8228/ ).
AA used to an award product called "Oneworld" that created a lot of confusion with OW RTW/Circle paid tickets (*ONE*)
To me you are being very optimistic is hoping AS will introduce an "RTW" type award product
#120
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I just made an award reservation on AS using AS miles. I waited until it was ticketed and went back in and tried to change my FF number to AA so as a OW Sapphire I could select premium seats. No way to change the FF number. Maybe this process just won't work when booking a reservation using AS miles. All OW benefits are lost then?