xliioper

The route was always intended to be seasonal. The OAG Changes post on airliners.net shows that when the route was loaded last July it only went from November through early April this year. They did bump the frequencies as it was originally only loaded as 3x weekly and now it is 5x or more.

navydevildoc

This displeases me greatly. I guess I am gonna go back to flying SAN-MCO then driving the three hours down the turnpike.

Klrduks

And as a side note, I noticed a lot of US to Europe inventory on award tickets during the last half of December has been zeroed out. (At least it was this morning and was not yesterday.) Thank goodness I already booked it.

xliioper

With AS Oneworld entry, AA connection through DFW to FLL might also be worth a look as there appear to be convenient daytime flight options.

PDXPremier

I'm not sure if you're looking at a specific partner, but AA still has quite a bit of inventory at the 22.5K award level including the "new" SEA-LHR route during the 2nd half of December.

williwaw

Reviving this thread only because looking at PDX-Hawaii in December I still see just Y coming back on AS. And over to Delta is it just their first product that is pricing. I don’t have an active EF since I am grounded but I suspect buckets are still zeroed out. A family of four from PDX to Kona for $8,000.... But maybe if that stimulus check is burning a hole in your pocket people will bite. I suspect the OW integration might still be part of this - but seeing DL doing the same thing is hinting that everyone is sitting tight to set fares later.

PV_Premier

I am not so sure. I just booked KOA for Xmas yesterday. I took the last two seats on the F cabin seat map on my return flight and I paid a big price for them, but it was still cheaper than HA. More expensive than the DL/UA redeye, but not astronomically, and I prefer to sleep in my own bed than in one of their recliners.

I used miles so that it is easy to cancel and refund if prices drop, and so that I am not giving AS an interest-free loan on the fares if that becomes the case.

I have a cabin in east Idaho, fares to JAC and IDA on DL/AS/UA are all $100 higher for 28+ day advanced bookings than they were two weeks ago, mapping to the same fare buckets.

I think if the vaccine campaign is successful, travel demand is going to go through the roof for the back half of this year, and fares are gonna be high. The airlines are looking to make up for lost revenue, and travelers are looking to make up for lost time, so I think there will not be much pressure from either side to give in the game of chicken.

williwaw

I did notice on the nonstop flights I was looking at, F was not even for sale (with seats all taken).

Ooff, I can see that being a trend. Thanks for the datapoint. I am searching some narrow dates, but the award Y tickets are also 100k RT.

PV_Premier

Yes, I was in same boat, narrow date range given the way the holiday falls this year and my girlfriend's work schedule (mine is more flexible). But our logic was, we canceled an expensive trip to Chile in 2020, no chance of rebooking it or anything remotely comparable in 2021, so we might as well treat ourselves to some atypical luxury in Hawaii. Normally we would fly coach and stay in a budget friendly Air BnB or use points for a hotel and travel in the shoulder season in mid-autumn. This year since we are not doing our normal annual international trip and we also didn't do it last year, we are just going all out on this one and spending 2-3x what we normally would on flights + lodging.

I think a lot of people will have the same feeling as we did. Honestly, I think international flights will remain very affordable for US-based travelers until well into 2022, but domestic flights are gonna be pricey.

pcoll

I have been watching fares for FLL and MCO in November. Were stable a month ago ,but started increasing $10 every 5 days. No seats purchased , if I trust seat map. Fare bucket price increase. Just booked it..$30 more than when I started looking. should have done it 2 weeks ago. Don’t feel too bad, after getting such great fares on F travel so far this year.😀
Question for more experienced flyers...
I paid for upgrades to premium 3 months ago on family trip.
Just noticed that the price for premium is now less for that same flight. Would AS do adjustment or is it just the way it works , at times?

NoLaGent

I doubt it, but it may be worth asking Customer Care, they're the only ones who could do it.

The only other option is to cancel the flights, have the refund for the fares and the PC upgrade go to your wallet, and then rebook. I'm guessing that the airfare is now higher in your case, so that's likely not an option either.

pcoll

you got it exactly right. Not worth cancelling and rebook.
it is worth asking customer care , but not expecting much. Never hurts to ask.
thanks so much for quick reply.

beckoa

One can also wait for a schedule change.

What was the price difference? Just curious- I see prices advertised, but have never paid for PC.

pcoll

Upgrade to PC from Main was $149pp. LAX/OGG

Now shows upgrade $139, so only $10 each . But, 4 passengers - RT makes it $80
(Would help offset cost of meals on plane)

beckoa

Thanks for the datapoint. Interesting it went down- I'm used to seeing these only increase (in the rare event I even watched the cost)