[Speculation] Discussion the New MVP Gold 100K Tier (2022)
Jan 13, 2021, 9:10 pm
#166
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: AS 100k, DL PM, New Sagaya
Posts: 1,288
You could do it with a lot of transcons. ~20 round trip coast to coast flights would get you there, but that's not a lot of fun (except maybe for FlyingForFun).
It's also possible with a lot of domestic F. But if you're flying everything in paid F, do most of the status benefits matter that much?
It's also possible with a lot of domestic F. But if you're flying everything in paid F, do most of the status benefits matter that much?
Jan 13, 2021, 9:23 pm
#167
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
It would be easy to implement an EQM component to the AS credit card going forward. AA has added a EQD waiver to their credit card if you reach $30K in annual spend but it only applies up to Platinum Pro. I wouldn't think AS would allow a segment waiver beyond 75K if they followed suit.
James
Jan 13, 2021, 9:31 pm
#168
Join Date: May 2012
Location: HNL
Programs: AS MVPG, HA Plat
Posts: 1,268
After thinking about this for a few days, my conclusion is: meh. Travel is likely to be down for a while, AS has a pretty solid history of treating its elites decently, and I don’t expect a giant influx of AA flyers on AS flights, so I expect to do at least as well as I did in 2019 for a while yet, whether as MVPG with one more tier above or maybe squeaking into 75K.
Jan 13, 2021, 9:38 pm
#169
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 2,834
I bet the number who qualify for 75K this year will be a much larger number than you think. Many, who had never held the 75K Elite level, flew MRs in the fall to reach 75K with the Bonus EQM of up to 2.63× miles flown on cheap F fares. You could earn 75K from zero by flying at most 50K in any fare class to as little as 28,518 miles in F(F, P & I).
AS eliminated the additional requirement of higher thresholds for flying AS+Partners and extended the EQM Bonus through June 30th. I don't see that lowering the ranks of 75Ks. Additionally, even AA Elites, especially those not earning elevated EQD on international Partner segments offering a multiple to spend, will be vying for 75K to maintain OWE without having to meet the already reduced but still burdensome revenue component.
75K & 100K is a lot of miles on AS only. I would not have earned 75K had I not been able to qualify with 90K AS+Partners EQM. If you are already earning 90K, the step to 100K is really insignificant. I think many more 75K Elites on AS+Partner segments probably had more than 100K than those that squeak by at 90K. I would have organically earned 75K on AS in 2020 but that was only because of the EQM from Credit Card spend and the 50% EQM bonus. Over the last three years, I have earned 388K EQM. I don't think meeting a 100K requirement is going to be difficult for a lot of 75Ks.
James
AS eliminated the additional requirement of higher thresholds for flying AS+Partners and extended the EQM Bonus through June 30th. I don't see that lowering the ranks of 75Ks. Additionally, even AA Elites, especially those not earning elevated EQD on international Partner segments offering a multiple to spend, will be vying for 75K to maintain OWE without having to meet the already reduced but still burdensome revenue component.
75K & 100K is a lot of miles on AS only. I would not have earned 75K had I not been able to qualify with 90K AS+Partners EQM. If you are already earning 90K, the step to 100K is really insignificant. I think many more 75K Elites on AS+Partner segments probably had more than 100K than those that squeak by at 90K. I would have organically earned 75K on AS in 2020 but that was only because of the EQM from Credit Card spend and the 50% EQM bonus. Over the last three years, I have earned 388K EQM. I don't think meeting a 100K requirement is going to be difficult for a lot of 75Ks.
James
Jan 13, 2021, 10:56 pm
#170
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Realistically how many people are going to spend that much time doing MRs for status? Your time is worth something, too, and 10 days is a lot of time doing MRs that you could spend doing something else.
Jan 13, 2021, 11:06 pm
#171
Join Date: May 2013
Location: SEA
Programs: AS MVP Gold 100K
Posts: 2,029
So does anyone here actually travel because they need to go somewhere? We have all done a mileage run here and there but this crazy multiple zig-zags across the county just to get status, really? What’s the point of status if you kill yourself flying for status? Asking for a friend.
Jan 13, 2021, 11:10 pm
#172
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SAN, BOS
Programs: AS MVPG100K, BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Plat,
Posts: 2,279
So does anyone here actually travel because they need to go somewhere? We have all done a mileage run here and there but this crazy multiple zig-zags across the county just to get status, really? What’s the point of status if you kill yourself flying for status? Asking for a friend.
Jan 13, 2021, 11:36 pm
#173
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 829
So does anyone here actually travel because they need to go somewhere? We have all done a mileage run here and there but this crazy multiple zig-zags across the county just to get status, really? What’s the point of status if you kill yourself flying for status? Asking for a friend.
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Jan 13, 2021, 11:39 pm
#174
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SAN, BOS
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LOL why are you on a travel board judging other people traveling? STFU and live your life. Take the necessary precautions and your chance of getting covid on an airplane is the same as that airplane crashing down. I'm flying my 4th FLL-SEA-PHX-SEA-FLL this weekend because I love being in the air.
Jan 14, 2021, 12:24 am
#175
Join Date: May 2013
Location: SEA
Programs: AS MVP Gold 100K
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LOL why are you on a travel board judging other people traveling? STFU and live your life. Take the necessary precautions and your chance of getting covid on an airplane is the same as that airplane crashing down. I'm flying my 4th FLL-SEA-PHX-SEA-FLL this weekend because I love being in the air.
Jan 14, 2021, 12:36 am
#176
Join Date: Oct 2020
Programs: AS MVPG 100K
Posts: 154
I agree. Time is precious and we have to use it wisely. An average 4 segs transcon rt is about 6000 miles. As a 75k, you will get 6000 x3( COS + elite bonus) x10 trip + 50k bonus = 230k RDM . You can redeem those RDM for 3x F tickets on CX or JL that normally would cost you ~$20k. Assume you spend $5k for those 10rt (F fare), you still save ~$15k. So when people ask themselves "what can I do in my 10 days weekend so that I can afford to fly international long haul in F 3 times?" . I guess "MR for AS" is not a bad answer. Of course if you have other talents & skills that can earn you $15k in 10 days then you should not do MR at all. In the end, MR is a form of exchange your time for $.
Jan 14, 2021, 12:45 am
#177
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
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Totally disagree. The echo chamber that is FlyerTalk is not reality. AAG and every other US airline is going to be significantly lacking in their elite counts. Just because a few outliers lay claim to already qualifying for 2022 status belies the utter destruction of business travel.
Just in case you think my "claim" of achieving 2022 status is a hoax! My account was updated on January 9th after flying 4 segments in 2021.
James
Jan 14, 2021, 1:28 am
#178
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I agree. Time is precious and we have to use it wisely. An average 4 segs transcon rt is about 6000 miles. As a 75k, you will get 6000 x3( COS + elite bonus) x10 trip + 50k bonus = 230k RDM . You can redeem those RDM for 3x F tickets on CX or JL that normally would cost you ~$20k. Assume you spend $5k for those 10rt (F fare), you still save ~$15k. So when people ask themselves "what can I do in my 10 days weekend so that I can afford to fly international long haul in F 3 times?" . I guess "MR for AS" is not a bad answer. Of course if you have other talents & skills that can earn you $15k in 10 days then you should not do MR at all. In the end, MR is a form of exchange your time for $.
Jan 14, 2021, 2:03 am
#179
Join Date: Oct 2020
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That assumes that you also have time and inclination to use the RDMs in a way that will be worth that $15K. But even if you do, there are a lot of things I can do with 10 days that are worth more to me than $15K, even if I'm not compensated for them at all. I'm generally not motivated to spend a lot of time in a metal tube in the sky so that I can spend more time in a metal tube in the sky. My employer would actually be happy if I were willing to to two LAX-BOS RTs a month (if it were possible right now), but that's way more time than I want to spend on the road.
Jan 14, 2021, 2:58 am
#180
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I am certain that people will find a way to maximize those hard earn RDM . MR is just buying AS miles for cheap (1 cpm vs 2 cpm) and you also get other perks that dont come with buying miles with cash. Also for a lot of people, flying is definitely not "spending time in a metal tube", flying is "vacation time". If you are not motivated to fly, then dont fly. If you dont want to redeem your RDM for CX F or JL F, great, lots of people in this forum will appreciate that.
