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2021 Alaska Airlines *FLAME-FREE* Q&A Thread: All Welcome, New and Old!

2021 Alaska Airlines *FLAME-FREE* Q&A Thread: All Welcome, New and Old!

Old Apr 15, 21, 9:27 pm
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Originally Posted by futuramadramallama View Post
Does it stack though? Are you saying MVPG and MVPG75k get two bags as a MileagePlan elite benefit, and then by virtue of them being OWS and OWE, respectively, they get an additional bag (for a total of three)?
Yes, it is in "addition to you ticketed baggage allowence***"

Here is the ***

***Extra baggage allowance for Emerald frequent flyers

As an Emerald frequent flyer, the following special checked baggage privileges will apply when you fly on oneworld airlines:
  • On itineraries using the baggage allowance weight system - 20 kgs in addition to the ticketed-cabin allowance.
  • On itineraries using the piece system - one additional bag for free in addition to your ticketed baggage allowance.
Note: This benefit is not available on British Airways' 'Hand Baggage Only/Basic' fares.

*In accordance with the individual policy of the oneworld airline operating the flight. **Priority baggage handling is not currently available on flights operated by British Airways.

Exceptions may apply.

***Extra baggage allowance for Sapphire frequent flyers

As a Sapphire frequent flyer, the following special checked baggage privileges will apply when you fly on oneworld airlines:
  • On international or domestic itineraries using the baggage allowance "weight" system - 15 kgs in addition to the ticketed Economy Class baggage allowance.
  • On international itineraries, that include domestic sectors, using the baggage allowance piece system one additional bag*, weighing up to 23kgs, up to a maximum of two pieces.
  • On purely domestic itineraries, using the baggage allowance "piece" system, for tickets with no ticketed baggage entitlement - the assurance of one piece of checked baggage, weighing up to 23 kgs.

Customers travelling in First and Business Class cabins will, in most cases, receive an even greater free checked baggage allowance.

Note: This benefit is not available on British Airways 'Hand Baggage Only/Basic' fares.

*In accordance with the individual policy of the oneworld airline operating the flight. **Priority baggage handling is not currently available on flights operated by British Airways.

Exceptions may apply.

James

Last edited by Flying for Fun; Apr 15, 21 at 9:48 pm
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Old Apr 16, 21, 9:40 am
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Does anyone expect some additional promos or bonuses regarding elite status qualification? The 50% bonus EQM expires soon and I'm not sure travel has picked up as much as airlines hoped, but Alaska has lower thresholds already in comparison to other airlines (20k, 40k levels) and may not feel the need or any pressure to ease qualification further.
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Old Apr 16, 21, 9:44 am
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Originally Posted by godlovesugly View Post
Does anyone expect some additional promos or bonuses regarding elite status qualification? The 50% bonus EQM expires soon and I'm not sure travel has picked up as much as airlines hoped, but Alaska has lower thresholds already in comparison to other airlines (20k, 40k levels) and may not feel the need or any pressure to ease qualification further.
We don't know for sure, but a lot of people hope/think that it might be extended through the end of the year to match what they are offering to people who signed up for status challenges. That said, bookings for summer are at 70% of pre-pandemic levels and fare prices are steadily increasing, so I would imagine they are feeling less pressure each day to offer easier paths to status.
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Old Apr 16, 21, 11:01 am
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Originally Posted by godlovesugly View Post
Does anyone expect some additional promos or bonuses regarding elite status qualification? The 50% bonus EQM expires soon and I'm not sure travel has picked up as much as airlines hoped, but Alaska has lower thresholds already in comparison to other airlines (20k, 40k levels) and may not feel the need or any pressure to ease qualification further.
https://viewfromthewing.com/american-airlines-may-draft-flight-attendants-to-return-to-work/
https://onemileatatime.com/florida-resort-revenue-up/


Seems like domestic travel has picked up more than at least American Airlines planned for. Ticket prices don't seem depressed to me, and good luck affording a car rental if you are going to a leisure travel destination. extending the 50% EQM bonus would be unnecessary, but I'd take it as I'm trying to get to 75K.

My AS flight BOS-SFO yesterday had a waitlist for coach seats and seems like it went out about 95% full. I think the travel industry is going to switch very soon from incentivizing travelers to fly/stay, to pleading with furlowed & retired staff to come back to work. Meanwhile I've had some flight cancellations for June on AS and TK lately. It's a strange time.
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Old Apr 16, 21, 1:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Flying for Fun View Post
The oneworld benefit allows for an additional bag at 50#. Other carriers allow up to 70# per checked bag and the oneworld allows for an additional bag at 70#.
Would this apply to your traveling non-status companion? So can I get 6 bags?
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Old Apr 17, 21, 2:10 pm
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Just booked an award ticket using AS miles.
Is there a way to change my FF program after ticketing? Trying to add my AAdvanta number.
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Old Apr 17, 21, 5:54 pm
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Originally Posted by sturges View Post
My companions have always received my luggage allowance. Also, 75K now gets 3 bags, not 2.
Originally Posted by RAD_PDX View Post
I see in the fine print where in fact the luggage allowance does include the traveling companions (https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...laska-airlines). Where are you seeing that 3 bags are allowed?
I think it actually shows it on that very page (maybe they updated it after you checked?), and as reproduced in the screenshot below:



Originally Posted by Flying for Fun View Post
Both OWS (MVPG) & OWE (MVPG75K) are granted an additional baggage allowance. If you click on the Oneworld Benefits at the bottom of the linked page, you will see "additional baggage," as a benefit for oneworld Elites.

[...]
Originally Posted by Flying for Fun View Post
Yes, it is in "addition to you ticketed baggage allowence***"

Here is the *** [...]
Originally Posted by RAD_PDX View Post
Thanks. I assumed that must be where 3 came from, but I still find it odd that they break it out like that.
If I may, I'm not sure that's how the 3-bags-for-MVP75k was "calculated." The current 2-2-3 bag allotment for MVP, MVPG, and MVPG75k, respectively, is only when flying AS' own metal, and comparable to United's benefits scheme for its own metal, Delta's benefits scheme for its own metal, and so forth. One might note that the "third tier" of both UA and DL offer three bags. And magically, so does AS now. (Though that may not be the specific reason, it's potentially worth noting in context.)

The "extra bag in addition to your ticketed allowance when flying OneWorld" is a separate scheme, and doesn't stack with the carrier from which one's OneWorld FF benefits emanate. If it did, then a MVP75k member should actually receive four bags when flying AS metal, and presumably they don't. If the current "2-2-3 concept" is the luggage allotment when flying Alaska-as-an-Alaska-elite, this separate scheme is one's luggage allotment when flying-OneWorld-Partners-as-an-Alaska-elite where the current 2-2-3 concept doesn't apply.

For example, when flying CX (a OneWorld partner), the baggage chart for the Americas and NZ (and reproduced below) shows that by default, Y, PE, and J passengers are each accorded two pieces, and F passengers, three pieces. Further down the chart, we see the "additions" in the case of OWE and OWS membership. A passenger's allotment is correspondingly increased by one piece for each class, resulting in three for Y, PE, and J, and four for F. This increase of one piece at each cabin-level comports with the OneWorld "baggage increase" for OWE/OWS.



In conclusion, agreed that MVPG75k gets 3 bags now, but IMHO, (1) that's only on AS metal, (2) it's not due to OneWorld policies. (Some quotes shortened in an attempt to save space.)

Open to other interpretations/opinions as it's entirely possible I've read this wrong. Cheers.
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Old Apr 17, 21, 9:25 pm
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Originally Posted by futuramadramallama View Post
I think it actually shows it on that very page (maybe they updated it after you checked?), and as reproduced in the screenshot below:

At the time of my post, the above free bags⁷ was indeed 2-2-2. That has been updated.

If I may, I'm not sure that's how the 3-bags-for-MVP75k was "calculated." The current 2-2-3 bag allotment for MVP, MVPG, and MVPG75k, respectively, is only when flying AS' own metal, and comparable to United's benefits scheme for its own metal, Delta's benefits scheme for its own metal, and so forth. One might note that the "third tier" of both UA and DL offer three bags. And magically, so does AS now. (Though that may not be the specific reason, it's potentially worth noting in context.)

The "extra bag in addition to your ticketed allowance when flying OneWorld" is a separate scheme, and doesn't stack with the carrier from which one's OneWorld FF benefits emanate. If it did, then a MVP75k member should actually receive four bags when flying AS metal, and presumably they don't. If the current "2-2-3 concept" is the luggage allotment when flying Alaska-as-an-Alaska-elite, this separate scheme is one's luggage allotment when flying-OneWorld-Partners-as-an-Alaska-elite where the current 2-2-3 concept doesn't apply.
Ambiguity isn't a foreign word when trying to decipher AS' policies on their website. I understand your differntiation between schemes for flying on the medal of your domiciled frequent flyer Elite/oneworld status program & flying on other carries in the alliance. However;

Mileage Plan elite benefits compared


There are 5 categories which compare the benefits by Elite Tier; Earn, Flight, Airport, Service & oneworld priority. Free checked bags⁷ is listed under Airport Benefits and is now 2-2-3. Oneworld priority is "Corresponding oneworld tier levels." Extra baggage allownce* is afforded for OWS & OWE and the allocations is different between the two tiers.

For OWE, ***Extra baggage allowance for Emerald frequent flyers

As an Emerald frequent flyer, the following special checked baggage privileges will apply when you fly on oneworld airlines:
  • On itineraries using the baggage allowance weight system - 20 kgs in addition to the ticketed-cabin allowance.
  • On itineraries using the piece system - one additional bag for free in addition to your ticketed baggage allowance.

The key here is "on oneworld airlines." Since AS is now a oneworld airline, the extra baggage allowance should apply regardless. Nowhere is AS differentiated from the others in the alliance for their own Elites flying on AS.

James

Applies to member and companions in the same reservation.
*In accordance with the individual policy of the oneworld airline operating the flight.
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Old Apr 18, 21, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by Flying for Fun View Post
On itineraries using the baggage allowance weight system - 20 kgs in addition to the ticketed-cabin allowance.
  • On itineraries using the piece system - one additional bag for free in addition to your ticketed baggage allowance.
Does this apply to a companion on the same reservation? Or only if you are an AS elite flying on AS metal will your companion get free lugguage allowance as well?
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Old Apr 18, 21, 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by ckn2 View Post
Just booked an award ticket using AS miles.
Is there a way to change my FF program after ticketing? Trying to add my AAdvanta number.
I was able to do this by calling AS after making the award booking.
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Old Apr 18, 21, 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Sky Dreamer View Post
Does this apply to a companion on the same reservation? Or only if you are an AS elite flying on AS metal will your companion get free lugguage allowance as well?
The superscript ⁷ refers to the Free baggage allowence for AS Elites flying on AS. The benefit is extended to companions in the same PNR, whether Elite or not. I don't see any reference to the oneworld additional baggage benefit extending to companions in the same PNR.

My interpretation may be incorrect. What is written on the website is ambiguous. Does the increase from 2 pieces to 3 pieces for MVPG75K/OWE now include the oneworld additional baggage benefit or is the oneworld baggage benefit in addition to it? It isn't explicitly stated.

If the former, then by superscript ⁷, the benefit is extended to companions in the same PNR. If the latter, then nothing explicitly says that the oneworld extra baggage benefit applies to just the Elite Member or extends to everyone in the PNR.

Until we see some datapoints of how free checked baggage is handled on AS, a correct interpretation of the actual policy is difficult.

Perhaps a MVPG75K/OWE with an imminent itinerary can advise if they are seeing 3 or 4 Free checked bags during check-in and if there is any difference for their companion(s).

James
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Old Apr 19, 21, 12:25 pm
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I don't think any alliance will extend the benefits to a companion, unless specifically noted. (like how many guests you can invite to the lounge etc, if they don't say it, it won't be available). I could be wrong.
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Old Apr 20, 21, 6:56 am
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Originally Posted by econ View Post
I was able to do this by calling AS after making the award booking.
When you make the booking, do it as a NEW passenger (skip the prepopulated one). Youll have to enter all details manually, including your Preferred FT Program + No. Its the same on AA booking AS. Also the same for revenue tickets.

One of many IT issues that detract from the experience IMO.
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Old Apr 20, 21, 8:38 pm
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Planning on getting a Lounge pass with Alaska. Any ideas on how this works with AA lounges? Can I just give my Alaska Member Number or do I need the physical card?
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Old Apr 20, 21, 11:57 pm
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Originally Posted by tomtaylor23 View Post
Planning on getting a Lounge pass with Alaska. Any ideas on how this works with AA lounges? Can I just give my Alaska Member Number or do I need the physical card?
A lounge pass or a lounge membership? If a day pass those aren't valid at the ACs. If you are referring to an Alaska Lounge membership, then you just show the card or digital card with your BP when entering.
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