Seattle Times: To survive the pandemic, AS prepares to shrink and shed 1000s of jobs
#16
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Join Date: Oct 2016
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For a wiseguy, "have you had symptoms lately", 90-100% of people have the same symptoms as an asymptomatic Covid-19 patient.
#17
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Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Eastern Shore of Lake Michigan; Formerly SEA
Programs: AS MVPG | oneworld Sapphire
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For flights departing SEA, PDX, SFO, SJC, LAX, SAN, the answer to the last question would be yes for all passengers. Have you traveled to a hotspot lately?
For a wiseguy, "have you had symptoms lately", 90-100% of people have the same symptoms as an asymptomatic Covid-19 patient.
For a wiseguy, "have you had symptoms lately", 90-100% of people have the same symptoms as an asymptomatic Covid-19 patient.
I am still curious what the questions will be.
Speaking of which: Yesterday I had my first medical appointment since the pandemic began. An email from the provider's office told me they'd take my temperature and "ask me a series of screening questions" upon my arrival.
I was ready for The Spanish Inquisition.
Instead, after the receptionist met me at the door and took my temperature, her screening question was, "So...<shrug>...any problems?" To which I proudly and accurately answered, "YES. LOTS! Lots and lots of problems. But none that I think we're talking about here."
Point is, which I'm sure you're stating too, screening questions of any sort are going to contribute very little to the general health and welfare. The fact that they exist might help put some people at ease, and I guess there is some value in that, but that's about as far as it goes.
#18
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Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Eastern Shore of Lake Michigan; Formerly SEA
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I'm not part of budget meetings at my company (could be the same one, who knows), but I'm getting the sense that our trips to other company locations will continue to be curtailed, but those to customer sites will resume.
In other words, the folks in Sales will resume flying off to play golf with existing or prospective customers at Pebble Beach, Les Bordes, and Abiko. But if I need to collaborate with a group of colleagues in Virginia or Berlin, I'll sometimes find myself video conferencing in my robe at 5 AM or 10 PM.
#19
Join Date: Sep 2014
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Sounds to me like the old 9/11 questions you had to answer when checking in both in-person and electronically. (Has your bag been out of your control...) At least on-line, it was like clicking through a "do you accept cookies..." note on a website. You do it without thinking often. I doubt it will stop a person who is symptomatic who really wants to fly. Hope springs eternal but this seems to be a liability play, not one for safety.
#20
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MM, MVPGold100k, Hilton Diamond, Hertz Presidents Circle
Posts: 1,475
Each place I have gone to for work has had a questionnaire (have I been to a hot spot, do I have any symptoms, am I close to someone with the virus) and had my temperature taken. If I did not bring a mask, one was provided. Most places had signage all over the facility about maintaining 6' apart with arrows showing the measurement. At first they were very serious when asking the questions, but now they seem much more relaxed and anticipating you would have all the right answers. I assume it will be similar when checking in for a flight.
#21
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 331
Sounds to me like the old 9/11 questions you had to answer when checking in both in-person and electronically. (Has your bag been out of your control...) At least on-line, it was like clicking through a "do you accept cookies..." note on a website. You do it without thinking often. I doubt it will stop a person who is symptomatic who really wants to fly. Hope springs eternal but this seems to be a liability play, not one for safety.
#22
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Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
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May I ask whether that's the budget for the entire company, or just a certain division or function?
I'm not part of budget meetings at my company (could be the same one, who knows), but I'm getting the sense that our trips to other company locations will continue to be curtailed, but those to customer sites will resume.
In other words, the folks in Sales will resume flying off to play golf with existing or prospective customers at Pebble Beach, Les Bordes, and Abiko. But if I need to collaborate with a group of colleagues in Virginia or Berlin, I'll sometimes find myself video conferencing in my robe at 5 AM or 10 PM.
I'm not part of budget meetings at my company (could be the same one, who knows), but I'm getting the sense that our trips to other company locations will continue to be curtailed, but those to customer sites will resume.
In other words, the folks in Sales will resume flying off to play golf with existing or prospective customers at Pebble Beach, Les Bordes, and Abiko. But if I need to collaborate with a group of colleagues in Virginia or Berlin, I'll sometimes find myself video conferencing in my robe at 5 AM or 10 PM.
#23
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Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Eastern Shore of Lake Michigan; Formerly SEA
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My Fortune 500 company hosts conferences. They aren't planning for any of those anytime soon. And frankly if you can get pretty good results with video instead of an in person 5000 person conference, without paying for catering, hotels, tchotchkes, etc. that's all economic activity that isn't coming back, plus the planes to fly people around, and it's savings the beancounters can capture.
#24
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Seattle
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Ive had to transition to doing online training instead of going to our labs across the country, its not as good as the in person training because I have no feed back (body language, facial expressions, etc) So, I do not know when to switch it up and emphasize various portions of the training or shorten others. It has become just a spew it out type of presentation, with much less interaction. All of my association meetings where I am a speaker have been cancelled. from March through October except for one, and that is in MT, but they are making seating charts to ensure social distancing, bringing in plated and packaged foods, and more to ensure limited exposure for those in attendance and those serving the meeting. My meetings are typically between 125-250 people, very small compared to those large events. the one larger event for June did cancel, they are doing several days of meetings online now, with online ballots to formalize acceptance of new standards.