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Old Mar 29, 2020, 10:23 am
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Don't forget Boeing Defense. Boeing will not be allowed to fail. That doesn't mean it will continue to exist as it does today but it will not be allowed to fail outright.
This. Boeing is way more than commercial airplanes. Their defense business is significant.
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Old Mar 29, 2020, 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by xliioper
They are the sole commercial aviation builder left in the US. It's not simply about their bigness. Even if they aren't going to be building new aircraft for awhile, they will need to be around to provide support for the ones that are still flying. And then there's the whole military angle. It's not really a matter of who is in charge as the loss of Boeing would be a huge strategic loss for US and it's hard to imagine any administration letting that happen.
Actually I remember reading an article that one of the engine makers does better if Boeing doesn't make airplanes. Because they make more money on supporting aircraft in use than putting engines in new planes.
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Old Mar 29, 2020, 6:20 pm
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Originally Posted by NWAlaskaFlyer
Don't forget Boeing Defense. Boeing will not be allowed to fail. That doesn't mean it will continue to exist as it does today but it will not be allowed to fail outright.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremyb.../#465c7f0631e6 It appears Boeing may have the luxury of securing funding with better terms than those offered by the US Government - so much for failure.
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Old Apr 1, 2020, 11:27 am
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BA is back on "sale" hit $130 this AM, buying back for another 20% return on calls.
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Old Apr 1, 2020, 12:28 pm
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Originally Posted by owflyer
BA is back on "sale" hit $130 this AM, buying back for another 20% return on calls.
May I ask what this has to do with ALK? I think you are in the wrong thread.

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Old Apr 7, 2020, 10:27 am
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Originally Posted by Flying for Fun
May I ask what this has to do with ALK? I think you are in the wrong thread.

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Certainly, this was a discussion on ALK, and it was mentioned that BA may be a better play. Nice to see ALK doing better today.
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Originally Posted by owflyer
Certainly, this was a discussion on ALK, and it was mentioned that BA may be a better play. Nice to see ALK doing better today.
Yes, one poster goes off-topic.....

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Old Apr 7, 2020, 11:52 am
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Yes, one poster goes off-topic.....

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Some of us are bored James!
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Originally Posted by RAD_PDX
Some of us are bored James!
No s**t! I am too. 19 days self-isolating & social distancing in PHX to 14 days manditory self-quarentine in YLW. 10 to go! Those 19 days were supposed to be FLL (off a Partner award redemption), MIA, SJU and a week long Southern Caribbean cruise to the Dutch Antilles returning to ORD. To think that I flew 56K miles in January and now I am "grounded" for Flying for Fun.... lol
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There is a Bored Room thread... just say'n...
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Old Apr 11, 2020, 10:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Flying for Fun
No s**t! I am too. 19 days self-isolating & social distancing in PHX to 14 days manditory self-quarentine in YLW. 10 to go! Those 19 days were supposed to be FLL (off a Partner award redemption), MIA, SJU and a week long Southern Caribbean cruise to the Dutch Antilles returning to ORD. To think that I flew 56K miles in January and now I am "grounded" for Flying for Fun.... lol
. It’s interesting in some TPG posts most airlines are really not expecting any swing towards travel again until September / October. James, you were kind enough much earlier this year to help me book 2 first class seats on Emirates via Dubai. Now the thought of spending 17 hours with 600 others is a little scary.
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. It’s interesting in some TPG posts most airlines are really not expecting any swing towards travel again until September / October. James, you were kind enough much earlier this year to help me book 2 first class seats on Emirates via Dubai. Now the thought of spending 17 hours with 600 others is a little scary.
Perhaps the saving grace is that there are only 14 seats in F on the EK A380. Hopefully we will be on the "tail" end of this and restrictions will be lifting before your travels. Stay safe & be healthy.

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Old Apr 28, 2020, 11:48 pm
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Found a new way to acquire ALK:

https://bumped.com/

Here's a review:

https://clark.com/personal-finance-c...ed-app-review/

Apparently one can obtain .05% of purchased AS flights back as ALK? Anyone try this?

(I understand it works for other businesses, but am curious about Alaska as I spend a fair bit with them, and this is the AS forum after all )
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Old Jun 8, 2020, 11:36 am
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ALK is having a hot day - optimism around new travel numbers and analyst reports (see below). Also note the AA pessimism ($5 target, trading now at $20).

Airline Stocks Are Soaring Again. Alaska Air Is a Buy, Analyst Says. -- Barrons.com
11:58 AM ET 6/8/20 | Dow Jones


By Daren Fonda

Airline stocks continued to surge on Monday as analysts grew slightly more positive on the group.

Bank of America analyst Andrew Didora raised his price targets across much of the sector. He upgraded the shares of Alaska Air Group (ticker: ALK) to a Buy and bumped JetBlue Airways (JBLU) to a Neutral rating.

Alaska is "an exceptionally well-run airline," he wrote, "with strong free cash flow generation and an improving balance sheet." The airline is returning to its "low-cost roots with solid cost controls, which should help the company in a recovery," he added. Didora has a $53 price target on the stock, up from his previous estimate of $36. Shares traded around $46, up 10% in trading on Monday.

JetBlue looks well-positioned because of its focus on leisure travel and improving liquidity position, Didora said. The hitch with the airline (and stock) is that JetBlue operates in highly competitive markets such as New York, Boston, and Florida, where fare prices are likely to stay under pressure because of intense competition for leisure travelers. Didora has a $15 price target on JetBlue, up only slightly from recent prices around $14.35.

Airline stocks continued to rally overall, with the NYSE Arca Airline Index up 7%. Among the biggest winners were Alaska, United Airlines Holdings (UAL), up 9%, and JetBlue, up 7%.

One airline that didn't get a bump in Didora's framework was American Airlines Group (AAL). He maintained a $5 target and Underperform rating on the stock. American's stock traded around $20 on Monday, up 6.5%.

The stock has surged since June 4, gaining more than 55%, since American announced an expanded summer flight schedule. It has also been heavily shorted and appears to be rising on a continued short-squeeze (as investors who were short cover their positions by buying shares).

Didora is one of several analysts who isn't buying into the rally, however. The stock's target multiple is already in line with its long-term average, he noted, and he views the airline's leverage and balance sheet as a continuing cause for concern.

Nonetheless, investors appear increasingly bullish on the sector overall. Data from U.S. security checkpoints show a steady increase in domestic air travel, rising about 1.5 percentage points a week. Didora expects industrywide revenue to recover from a 90% decline early on in the crisis to a 55% decline in the second half of 2020, compared with 2019 figures.

Leisure travel is now leading the recovery, but the big gains in revenue may still be a way off. Corporate and international travel remain highly depressed and aren't likely to recover until well into the second half of the year.

That is a problem for most airlines, since corporate travel accounts for 60% of the industry's revenue, on average. Carriers such as Spirit Airlines (SAVE) and Allegiant Travel (ALGT) derive almost all of their revenue from leisure, but the percentages are closer to 50/50 for the full-service legacy carriers United, Delta Air Lines (DAL), and American.

"There are still no signs of international or corporate demand recovery, consistent with our expectations," Raymond James Savanthi Sythi wrote in a note published over the weekend. She doesn't expect business travel to show meaningful gains until September at the earliest.

Analysts do see some encouraging signs, though. J.P. Morgan's Jamie Baker noted that while "business travel remains largely grounded," the introduction of "fast entry'" lanes and a gradual easing of international travel restrictions could "lend some support" to a recovery. Countries like China, Singapore, and South Korea, are establishing fast-entry lanes and easing up on quarantine requirements, for instance.

If the coronavirus doesn't make a comeback, additional countries are likely to ease their controls, too. Companies may then start approving more travel, though the great debate is how much and how fast it will get back to the halcyon days.

Write to Daren Fonda at [email protected]
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Old Jul 24, 2020, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by williwaw
ALK is having a hot day - optimism around new travel numbers and analyst reports (see below). Also note the AA pessimism ($5 target, trading now at $20).

Airline Stocks Are Soaring Again. Alaska Air Is a Buy, Analyst Says. -- Barrons.com
11:58 AM ET 6/8/20 | Dow Jones


By Daren Fonda

Airline stocks continued to surge on Monday as analysts grew slightly more positive on the group.

Bank of America analyst Andrew Didora raised his price targets across much of the sector. He upgraded the shares of Alaska Air Group (ticker: ALK) to a Buy and bumped JetBlue Airways (JBLU) to a Neutral rating.

Alaska is "an exceptionally well-run airline," he wrote, "with strong free cash flow generation and an improving balance sheet." The airline is returning to its "low-cost roots with solid cost controls, which should help the company in a recovery," he added. Didora has a $53 price target on the stock, up from his previous estimate of $36. Shares traded around $46, up 10% in trading on Monday.

JetBlue looks well-positioned because of its focus on leisure travel and improving liquidity position, Didora said. The hitch with the airline (and stock) is that JetBlue operates in highly competitive markets such as New York, Boston, and Florida, where fare prices are likely to stay under pressure because of intense competition for leisure travelers. Didora has a $15 price target on JetBlue, up only slightly from recent prices around $14.35.

Airline stocks continued to rally overall, with the NYSE Arca Airline Index up 7%. Among the biggest winners were Alaska, United Airlines Holdings (UAL), up 9%, and JetBlue, up 7%.

One airline that didn't get a bump in Didora's framework was American Airlines Group (AAL). He maintained a $5 target and Underperform rating on the stock. American's stock traded around $20 on Monday, up 6.5%.

The stock has surged since June 4, gaining more than 55%, since American announced an expanded summer flight schedule. It has also been heavily shorted and appears to be rising on a continued short-squeeze (as investors who were short cover their positions by buying shares).

Didora is one of several analysts who isn't buying into the rally, however. The stock's target multiple is already in line with its long-term average, he noted, and he views the airline's leverage and balance sheet as a continuing cause for concern.

Nonetheless, investors appear increasingly bullish on the sector overall. Data from U.S. security checkpoints show a steady increase in domestic air travel, rising about 1.5 percentage points a week. Didora expects industrywide revenue to recover from a 90% decline early on in the crisis to a 55% decline in the second half of 2020, compared with 2019 figures.

Leisure travel is now leading the recovery, but the big gains in revenue may still be a way off. Corporate and international travel remain highly depressed and aren't likely to recover until well into the second half of the year.

That is a problem for most airlines, since corporate travel accounts for 60% of the industry's revenue, on average. Carriers such as Spirit Airlines (SAVE) and Allegiant Travel (ALGT) derive almost all of their revenue from leisure, but the percentages are closer to 50/50 for the full-service legacy carriers United, Delta Air Lines (DAL), and American.

"There are still no signs of international or corporate demand recovery, consistent with our expectations," Raymond James Savanthi Sythi wrote in a note published over the weekend. She doesn't expect business travel to show meaningful gains until September at the earliest.

Analysts do see some encouraging signs, though. J.P. Morgan's Jamie Baker noted that while "business travel remains largely grounded," the introduction of "fast entry'" lanes and a gradual easing of international travel restrictions could "lend some support" to a recovery. Countries like China, Singapore, and South Korea, are establishing fast-entry lanes and easing up on quarantine requirements, for instance.

If the coronavirus doesn't make a comeback, additional countries are likely to ease their controls, too. Companies may then start approving more travel, though the great debate is how much and how fast it will get back to the halcyon days.

Write to Daren Fonda at [email protected]
Wild ride with this one, I have done really well with ALK since the initial post, selling on two of the peaks (or close to it) and buying more on the dips. Stock Market Casino has been in full swing thats for sure. Overall I am up about 102% as of today on ALK since March which is awesome, but I don't see anymore huge spikes coming soon. From here on out it will be a 2 year longer term hold play for me.
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