Who has dibs on under seat storage in First ?
Mar 10, 2020, 7:37 pm
#31
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MM, MVPGold100k, Hilton Diamond, Hertz Presidents Circle
Posts: 1,475
Yes, this is my point. The middle space is shared -- and by shared, I mean, divided between the two occupants. The dividing line is the armrest.
This means that the aisle seat has more space than the window (I assume you meant "aisle" and not "middle"), but none of this means that it's ever ok to encroach into your neighbor's space. Your space is your seat (and the dividing line between the seats is the armrests) and the space in front of your seat, up to the seat in front of you, and extending underneath the seat in front of you. The placement of the supports of the seat in front of you doesn't change that. In the bulkhead there's no dividing line either; you still wouldn't (hopefully) spill out to in front of your neighbor's seat there either.
This means that the aisle seat has more space than the window (I assume you meant "aisle" and not "middle"), but none of this means that it's ever ok to encroach into your neighbor's space. Your space is your seat (and the dividing line between the seats is the armrests) and the space in front of your seat, up to the seat in front of you, and extending underneath the seat in front of you. The placement of the supports of the seat in front of you doesn't change that. In the bulkhead there's no dividing line either; you still wouldn't (hopefully) spill out to in front of your neighbor's seat there either.
Mar 10, 2020, 7:39 pm
#32
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
Mar 10, 2020, 7:46 pm
#33
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MM, MVPGold100k, Hilton Diamond, Hertz Presidents Circle
Posts: 1,475
Mar 10, 2020, 7:48 pm
#34
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
Mar 10, 2020, 7:58 pm
#35
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MM, MVPGold100k, Hilton Diamond, Hertz Presidents Circle
Posts: 1,475
Ah, I see, I wonder how I can convince my backpack to ignore the post. (since I cannot have anything on the floor in front of me, the FAs keep telling me I have to store it under the seat in front of me...)
Mar 10, 2020, 8:04 pm
#36
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
You can ignore the "posts" if you like but you can't ignore the inhibiting frame around the isle seat at floor level to prevent undedseat stored bags from sliding into the isle. Therefore, the space, is not, the width of the isle seat. The space from the post to the frame is, in fact, smaller than the space from the other post to the fuselage. James
Mar 11, 2020, 7:22 pm
#37
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Seattle
Programs: Alaska airlines 100k
Posts: 923
Prefer aisle. Always travel with a briefcase which I will put up top. IMHO the space is for the aisle person as first dibs as this is where my feet goes. I don’t spread my legs beyond that imaginary line where the armrest would extend. The window seat is free to use the 4 inches of this will not interfere with my feet. I would prefer not to have to put my feet on their item.
When having to sit in window seat my feet are snuggled into the space in front of me.
When having to sit in window seat my feet are snuggled into the space in front of me.
Mar 12, 2020, 7:00 pm
#38
Original Poster
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: 42.1% in PDX , 49.9% in PVG & 8% in the air somewhere
Programs: Marriott Ambassador Elite, UA 1K, AS MVP GLD 75K, DL Pt
Posts: 1,086
Ground hog week?
Last flight till this flattens out.
My backpack hangs out 8”-10” and for comparison completely under in the center.
Last flight till this flattens out.
My backpack hangs out 8”-10” and for comparison completely under in the center.
Mar 12, 2020, 9:02 pm
#39
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MM, MVPGold100k, Hilton Diamond, Hertz Presidents Circle
Posts: 1,475
Mar 12, 2020, 9:53 pm
#40
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
Mar 12, 2020, 10:11 pm
#41
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: YVR - Vancouver, with most winter weekends in Whistler.
Programs: Aeroplan 35K, Alaska MVP, Marriott Titanium / Lifetime Platinum, Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 4,609
This is like the passenger who is in the aisle seat who always asks the window seat passenger to adjust the shade. Why not sit in the window seat anyway?
First some first serve in my view!! =)
First some first serve in my view!! =)
Mar 12, 2020, 10:14 pm
#42
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: YVR, HNL
Programs: AS 75k, UA peon, BA Bronze, AC E50k, Marriott Plat, HH Diamond, Fairmont Plat (RIP)
Posts: 7,830
This. There is NO space under the front of the aisle seat. I even have to stack my shoes. That’s why aisle gets middle.
Mar 13, 2020, 9:46 am
#44
Original Poster
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: 42.1% in PDX , 49.9% in PVG & 8% in the air somewhere
Programs: Marriott Ambassador Elite, UA 1K, AS MVP GLD 75K, DL Pt
Posts: 1,086
Of course it won't fit. Already for this trip did a few things ahead of time to tuck it into the ,window I pulled a few things out and put it in my roller board.
Maybe it's all my fault; backpack got two laptops, kindle, and a few other things that make it so bulky, but hey road warrior with a system to go domestic or international with just those two pieces, including gym shoes and and ever ready for CEO meeting garb, LOL
If I am aisle which I always take except in this current situation I always defer the under seat area to the other people, all my stuff in the overhead. Not sure why passenger was so insistent and pissed, but sometimes you just meet that road rage guy
Maybe it's all my fault; backpack got two laptops, kindle, and a few other things that make it so bulky, but hey road warrior with a system to go domestic or international with just those two pieces, including gym shoes and and ever ready for CEO meeting garb, LOL
If I am aisle which I always take except in this current situation I always defer the under seat area to the other people, all my stuff in the overhead. Not sure why passenger was so insistent and pissed, but sometimes you just meet that road rage guy
Mar 13, 2020, 9:51 am
#45
Original Poster
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: 42.1% in PDX , 49.9% in PVG & 8% in the air somewhere
Programs: Marriott Ambassador Elite, UA 1K, AS MVP GLD 75K, DL Pt
Posts: 1,086
That I feel is very different, I prefer aisle and when I fly at certain times in the morning and evening the rising/setting sun just directly shines in, seems to be a "reasonable" request, seriously that means I need to take window?
Maybe the person in aisle is both incontinent and light sensitive to, what is more inconvenient to his neighbor, LOL