CUN-SEA diverted to LAX on 2/15
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Huh, wintertime and towards the edge of range going westbound into the jet stream. The flight paths are broadly similar.
Survey says.... fuel diversion and going to an AS crew base so they can swap crews once people time out.
Survey says.... fuel diversion and going to an AS crew base so they can swap crews once people time out.
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Good guesses about fuel.
DL732 CUN-SEA also diverted to SLC on 2/8 (and only 1 hour late, because it's much more direct diversion). No other diversions for Delta on this route with same aircraft type 737-800.
Perhaps Delta is a bit more lucky or had a smaller load of pax/cargo on bad days?
DL732 CUN-SEA also diverted to SLC on 2/8 (and only 1 hour late, because it's much more direct diversion). No other diversions for Delta on this route with same aircraft type 737-800.
Perhaps Delta is a bit more lucky or had a smaller load of pax/cargo on bad days?
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Good guesses about fuel.
DL732 CUN-SEA also diverted to SLC on 2/8 (and only 1 hour late, because it's much more direct diversion). No other diversions for Delta on this route with same aircraft type 737-800.
Perhaps Delta is a bit more lucky or had a smaller load of pax/cargo on bad days?
DL732 CUN-SEA also diverted to SLC on 2/8 (and only 1 hour late, because it's much more direct diversion). No other diversions for Delta on this route with same aircraft type 737-800.
Perhaps Delta is a bit more lucky or had a smaller load of pax/cargo on bad days?
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During the first Gulf War, I flew a TWA 747-100 from LHR to LAX (the longer range 747-200's were mobilized by the military). We had to stop for refueling at LAS (the original flight plan had a refueling stop in YWG). We were not allowed off the plane at LAS, an agent was stationed at the aircraft door. We cleared immigration and customs at LAX.
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Its still not clear why not to land in SLC, DEN or any other airport along the route, refuel without clearing immigration and continue to SEA with minimal delay. Crew probably overnights in CUN ayway before flying back, so crew timeout is not likely an issue here.
Of course if something goes wrong and quick turnaround becomes longer than expected, its a bigger logistical problem for AS if it happens in a city without spare crew aircraft / maintanence, but maybe still worth the risk?
Of course if something goes wrong and quick turnaround becomes longer than expected, its a bigger logistical problem for AS if it happens in a city without spare crew aircraft / maintanence, but maybe still worth the risk?
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During the first Gulf War, I flew a TWA 747-100 from LHR to LAX (the longer range 747-200's were mobilized by the military). We had to stop for refueling at LAS (the original flight plan had a refueling stop in YWG). We were not allowed off the plane at LAS, an agent was stationed at the aircraft door. We cleared immigration and customs at LAX.
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Its still not clear why not to land in SLC, DEN or any other airport along the route, refuel without clearing immigration and continue to SEA with minimal delay. Crew probably overnights in CUN ayway before flying back, so crew timeout is not likely an issue here.
Of course if something goes wrong and quick turnaround becomes longer than expected, its a bigger logistical problem for AS if it happens in a city without spare crew aircraft / maintanence, but maybe still worth the risk?
Of course if something goes wrong and quick turnaround becomes longer than expected, its a bigger logistical problem for AS if it happens in a city without spare crew aircraft / maintanence, but maybe still worth the risk?
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We learned about the diversion a few hours into the flight. They announced that customs/immigration would be closed at Sea Tac due to our late arrival. We landed at LAX and (eventually) got bussed to customs. Then had to walk back to the terminal, get new boarding passes at the desk, clear security, and find the gate.
Flight attendants were the same. I can’t speak for the pilots.
Flight attendants were the same. I can’t speak for the pilots.
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Long night
We learned about the diversion a few hours into the flight. They announced that customs/immigration would be closed at Sea Tac due to our late arrival. We landed at LAX and (eventually) got bussed to customs. Then had to walk back to the terminal, get new boarding passes at the desk, clear security, and find the gate.
Flight attendants were the same. I can’t speak for the pilots.
Flight attendants were the same. I can’t speak for the pilots.
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We learned about the diversion a few hours into the flight. They announced that customs/immigration would be closed at Sea Tac due to our late arrival. We landed at LAX and (eventually) got bussed to customs. Then had to walk back to the terminal, get new boarding passes at the desk, clear security, and find the gate.
Flight attendants were the same. I can’t speak for the pilots.
Flight attendants were the same. I can’t speak for the pilots.