Is F full or empty?
Jan 16, 2020, 4:50 pm
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Is F full or empty?
I'm on AS2740 PAE-SJC this Saturday. Here's what I'm seeing:
F2 D2 P1 I1 U1 A0 Y7 Z7 S7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 L7 V7 K7 G6 T5 R3 X7 N0 W0 E0
Trying to book this flight, I can't book more than 2 seats in F, as expected. However, the seat map shows 11 of 12 seats empty. I doubt 9 others have already been upgraded but haven't selected seats, so what else could be going on here?
F2 D2 P1 I1 U1 A0 Y7 Z7 S7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 L7 V7 K7 G6 T5 R3 X7 N0 W0 E0
Trying to book this flight, I can't book more than 2 seats in F, as expected. However, the seat map shows 11 of 12 seats empty. I doubt 9 others have already been upgraded but haven't selected seats, so what else could be going on here?
Jan 16, 2020, 6:53 pm
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It's possible that people have been automatically upgraded without having seats selected. It's 2 days before, so all solo travelers should have been upgraded already (it's showing U1)
It's also possible that they are underselling F and overselling Y.
It's also possible that some people bought F tickets without selecting seats (this is unlikely on that route -- it's not uncommon coming from an international gateway when they might be connecting on another carrier, and have bought the ticket on the other carrier's website).
It's also possible that they are underselling F and overselling Y.
It's also possible that some people bought F tickets without selecting seats (this is unlikely on that route -- it's not uncommon coming from an international gateway when they might be connecting on another carrier, and have bought the ticket on the other carrier's website).
Jan 16, 2020, 9:01 pm
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Sorry to say, that’s not how it works.
This is what ExpertFlyer shows under availability. 2 “F” seats Maximum for booking
Of those two:
2 are open as D
1 is open as P
1 is open as I
1 is open as U
other seats you see on their map are not yet assigned (even though booked). As many will say/remember/repeat: “The seat map is not a good indicator of true availability”.
Add to all of this what others are suggesting...some of those seats have been taken out of inventory pre-emptively (sp) based on who they plan to upgrade soon or hold for other reasons. Only the airline knows the exact answer to what’s going on with the seats vs fare codes.
Sorry to say, that’s not how it works.
This is what ExpertFlyer shows under availability. 2 “F” seats Maximum for booking
Of those two:
2 are open as D
1 is open as P
1 is open as I
1 is open as U
other seats you see on their map are not yet assigned (even though booked). As many will say/remember/repeat: “The seat map is not a good indicator of true availability”.
Add to all of this what others are suggesting...some of those seats have been taken out of inventory pre-emptively (sp) based on who they plan to upgrade soon or hold for other reasons. Only the airline knows the exact answer to what’s going on with the seats vs fare codes.
Last edited by Robt760; Jan 16, 2020 at 9:16 pm
Jan 16, 2020, 9:04 pm
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Jan 16, 2020, 9:07 pm
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AS holds back F inventory on flights with low F sales. I would guess there are more than 2 F seats available, and they will be released closer to departure.
Jan 16, 2020, 9:19 pm
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I'm on AS2740 PAE-SJC this Saturday. Here's what I'm seeing:
F2 D2 P1 I1 U1 A0 Y7 Z7 S7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 L7 V7 K7 G6 T5 R3 X7 N0 W0 E0
Trying to book this flight, I can't book more than 2 seats in F, as expected. However, the seat map shows 11 of 12 seats empty. I doubt 9 others have already been upgraded but haven't selected seats, so what else could be going on here?
F2 D2 P1 I1 U1 A0 Y7 Z7 S7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 L7 V7 K7 G6 T5 R3 X7 N0 W0 E0
Trying to book this flight, I can't book more than 2 seats in F, as expected. However, the seat map shows 11 of 12 seats empty. I doubt 9 others have already been upgraded but haven't selected seats, so what else could be going on here?
How many F seats and in what fare code/bucket ?
Jan 16, 2020, 9:58 pm
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