Dec 30, 2019, 1:03 pm
Last edit by: Quail
Wiki for using AS (Alaska) Miles on JL (Japan Airlines)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments).
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart
If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(As of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
For 2021:
F awards are available again to book directly on AS website (no need to book J then try to change segment) as of June 12, 2021.
Class of Service One-way Round-trip:
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SFO, SEA, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia (or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing)
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments).
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart
If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(As of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
For 2021:
F awards are available again to book directly on AS website (no need to book J then try to change segment) as of June 12, 2021.
Class of Service One-way Round-trip:
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SFO, SEA, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia (or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing)
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread (2020-2022)
Oct 17, 2021, 3:08 am
#331
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: SFO/SJC/OAK
Programs: OZ Diamond (*G), KQ Asante Gold (ST+), Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,510
Is it possible to book mixed-cabin itineraries where one of the segments doesn't have First Class? Looking to book ORD-NRT-BKK and seeing the availability on the American website (ORD-NRT in First, NRT-BKK in Business) but it does not come up on the Alaska website. I can see ORD-NRT in First Class separately, but it doesn't show up when searching both segments together.
Oct 17, 2021, 10:26 am
#332
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Is it possible to book mixed-cabin itineraries where one of the segments doesn't have First Class? Looking to book ORD-NRT-BKK and seeing the availability on the American website (ORD-NRT in First, NRT-BKK in Business) but it does not come up on the Alaska website. I can see ORD-NRT in First Class separately, but it doesn't show up when searching both segments together.
I will provide a made up example to help clarify:
You want to travel ORD-BKK 1/9. No First showing when searching ORD-BKK. First Shows ORD-NRT on 1/9.
Book ORD-NRT 1/9 in First Class (arrives NRT 1/10) on the website.
Use the AS website search to find any trip that shows Business Class on 1/10 from NRT-BKK on the flight you want. Could be ORD-BKK on 1/9. Or LAX-BKK on 1/9. Or even multi-city, ORD-NRT in Y on 11/21, stopover, NRT-BKK in J on 1/10. The key is to get the NRT-BKK flight you want on 1/10 to show business availability to the AS agent. You are not booking this trip you are just using it to show the agent that AS shows Business Class availability in J from NRT-BKK on 1/10 on the flight you need to connect to BKK on.
Call AS and ask them to add the NRT-BKK flight in Business Class. If they say it is not available have them search the above route you found showing it is available and ask them to check with a supervisor to see if they can book it since it clearly has availability.
Oct 17, 2021, 11:03 am
#333
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: SFO/SJC/OAK
Programs: OZ Diamond (*G), KQ Asante Gold (ST+), Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,510
There is some website bug that folks have run into in the past where mixed cabin itineraries don't always show. You can read more about peoples' experiences in this thread. Book the First Class to NRT then call in to add NRT BKK. It will help if you can point them to an itinerary with the segment you want in Business otherwise a lazy agent may tend to dismiss it as not available rather than an AS bug.
I will provide a made up example to help clarify:
You want to travel ORD-BKK 1/9. No First showing when searching ORD-BKK. First Shows ORD-NRT on 1/9.
Book ORD-NRT 1/9 in First Class (arrives NRT 1/10) on the website.
Use the AS website search to find any trip that shows Business Class on 1/10 from NRT-BKK on the flight you want. Could be ORD-BKK on 1/9. Or LAX-BKK on 1/9. Or even multi-city, ORD-NRT in Y on 11/21, stopover, NRT-BKK in J on 1/10. The key is to get the NRT-BKK flight you want on 1/10 to show business availability to the AS agent. You are not booking this trip you are just using it to show the agent that AS shows Business Class availability in J from NRT-BKK on 1/10 on the flight you need to connect to BKK on.
Call AS and ask them to add the NRT-BKK flight in Business Class. If they say it is not available have them search the above route you found showing it is available and ask them to check with a supervisor to see if they can book it since it clearly has availability.
I will provide a made up example to help clarify:
You want to travel ORD-BKK 1/9. No First showing when searching ORD-BKK. First Shows ORD-NRT on 1/9.
Book ORD-NRT 1/9 in First Class (arrives NRT 1/10) on the website.
Use the AS website search to find any trip that shows Business Class on 1/10 from NRT-BKK on the flight you want. Could be ORD-BKK on 1/9. Or LAX-BKK on 1/9. Or even multi-city, ORD-NRT in Y on 11/21, stopover, NRT-BKK in J on 1/10. The key is to get the NRT-BKK flight you want on 1/10 to show business availability to the AS agent. You are not booking this trip you are just using it to show the agent that AS shows Business Class availability in J from NRT-BKK on 1/10 on the flight you need to connect to BKK on.
Call AS and ask them to add the NRT-BKK flight in Business Class. If they say it is not available have them search the above route you found showing it is available and ask them to check with a supervisor to see if they can book it since it clearly has availability.
Oct 17, 2021, 5:45 pm
#334
Join Date: Sep 2018
Programs: Alaska
Posts: 2,188
If I remember it correctly, you can see first class by changing the reservation if it is available.
Oct 22, 2021, 12:47 am
#335
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: SFO/SJC/OAK
Programs: OZ Diamond (*G), KQ Asante Gold (ST+), Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,510
Booked ORD-NRT-BKK earlier this week using the instructions above and it was really simple. Booked ORT-NRT by itself and then called in to have the NRT-BKK segment added, which took 5 minutes.
Oct 22, 2021, 7:00 pm
#337
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: SFO/SJC/OAK
Programs: OZ Diamond (*G), KQ Asante Gold (ST+), Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,510
Nov 13, 2021, 9:30 am
#338
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: ANC, NYC
Posts: 327
If I can see an award available on AA search but not AS can I call into book with AS?
Last edited by desafino; Nov 13, 2021 at 9:36 am
Nov 13, 2021, 10:29 am
#339
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA, USA
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K, Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 1,597
You can call, but don't expect success. Airlines have different agreements, even within an alliance. The best option is to use the AS website and plan to spend time doing repeated searches. The multi-city tool is most helpful.
Nov 13, 2021, 4:54 pm
#340
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,378
FWIW agents are using the website to book for you, so you may be wasting your time.
Nov 16, 2021, 8:28 am
#342
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 21
Could anyone help update me on when to expect availability? One seat at T+360, then more seats at T+24?
EDIT: This is for JFK-HND if that matters (trying to get 2 seats)
EDIT: This is for JFK-HND if that matters (trying to get 2 seats)
Nov 16, 2021, 9:52 am
#343
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Of course, that is what it is like today. No one knows what it will be like tomorrow or next year.
Last edited by skimthetrees; Nov 16, 2021 at 11:43 am
Nov 16, 2021, 10:20 am
#344
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 21
As of today, 1F award at T-360 (not bookable by AS until it comes into the AS booking window around T-330), The rest become available around T-12 days at which point JAL can make the remaining unsold inventory available for awards. In between there is no new partner awards released. I found one anomaly day 1/28 where it looked like maybe one extra award seat might have been released but my guess is that it was not and the reason it is available is that the other taken F seat was a paid ticket and 1F award is separate from the 1F paid seat.
Of course, that is what it is like today. No one knows what it will be like tomorrow or next year.
Of course, that is what it is like today. No one knows what it will be like tomorrow or next year.
Nov 17, 2021, 11:47 am
#345
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: DTW
Programs: Marriott Platinum, SPG Platinum, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 391
Today I booked JFK-HND in F on JAL5 for October 2022. I saw some dates open in between January and October of next year but they were all JAL3 which leaves at 1:45am.
Can I wait to call in to book a connecting leg to another city in SEAsia later next year or should I just do it now?
Can I wait to call in to book a connecting leg to another city in SEAsia later next year or should I just do it now?
