Dec 30, 19, 1:03 pm
Last edit by: Quail
Wiki for using AS (Alaska) Miles on JL (Japan Airlines)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments).
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart
If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(As of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
For 2021:
F awards are available again to book directly on AS website (no need to book J then try to change segment) as of June 12, 2021.
Class of Service One-way Round-trip:
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SFO, SEA, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia (or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing)
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments).
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart
If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(As of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
For 2021:
F awards are available again to book directly on AS website (no need to book J then try to change segment) as of June 12, 2021.
Class of Service One-way Round-trip:
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SFO, SEA, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia (or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing)
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread (2020-2022)
Jan 31, 20, 7:16 am
#31
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SAN, BOS
Programs: AS MVPG100K, BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Plat,
Posts: 2,010
Updates: Successfully changed JAL J to F for a flight in the upcoming week, for no change fee +10k miles (same flight, just different cabin) Originally had two F flights for the mom and pops, now their son can join them in in the front of the cabin.
Feb 1, 20, 1:49 am
#32
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: PHX
Programs: AS MVP, HH Diamond
Posts: 3,257
Domestic Japan before INTL intra-asia
Is it possible to book an itin such as HND-KIX-BKK with AS where the layover in KIX is 16 hours? (arr KIX 0830, dep 0050am) It comes up as an option using AA miles on AA.com but not on Alaska website. If not I guess we can either use 30K AA or 7.5K AA + 25K AS for the one ways.(It's late and I've been at this for a while, so getting a bit delirious)
Feb 1, 20, 3:05 am
#33
Join Date: Sep 2018
Programs: Alaska
Posts: 2,113
Originally Posted by Ripper3785
Is it possible to book an itin such as HND-KIX-BKK with AS where the layover in KIX is 16 hours? (arr KIX 0830, dep 0050am) It comes up as an option using AA miles on AA.com but not on Alaska website. If not I guess we can either use 30K AA or 7.5K AA + 25K AS for the one ways.(It's late and I've been at this for a while, so getting a bit delirious)
it is allowed KIX-HND-BKK with 16-hour layover. I think the problem is with connecting for JL Intra-Asia. It seems that only TYO is allowed.
You can connect KIX for HND-KIX-LAX, however.
Feb 1, 20, 7:11 am
#34
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,181
Originally Posted by Ripper3785
Is it possible to book an itin such as HND-KIX-BKK with AS where the layover in KIX is 16 hours? (arr KIX 0830, dep 0050am) It comes up as an option using AA miles on AA.com but not on Alaska website. If not I guess we can either use 30K AA or 7.5K AA + 25K AS for the one ways.(It's late and I've been at this for a while, so getting a bit delirious)
Feb 2, 20, 9:47 pm
#35
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: PHX
Programs: AS MVP, HH Diamond
Posts: 3,257
Originally Posted by freed0m
it is allowed KIX-HND-BKK with 16-hour layover. I think the problem is with connecting for JL Intra-Asia. It seems that only TYO is allowed.
You can connect KIX for HND-KIX-LAX, however.
You can connect KIX for HND-KIX-LAX, however.
Originally Posted by skimthetrees
It is a legal connection on an international itinerary. You used to be able to book it online but not anymore. In a fair world you would be able to call in and book it but the only way to know for sure is to try it. If it does not work you might also consider 6k BA + 25k AS if you have access to Avios.
For the return BKK-KIX/ITM-HND we'll use AA miles since AS doesn't play nice with this. (Phone agent said they couldn't do it)
Feb 3, 20, 11:00 am
#36
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: OneSky Alliance Elite+ with Zirconium and oak leaf cluster, Braniff Unobtainium
Posts: 19,892
I’ve manage to book XXX-HND//KIX-YYY (that’s an unflown land segment) using multi city...
Feb 3, 20, 5:17 pm
#37
Join Date: Sep 2018
Programs: Alaska
Posts: 2,113
Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
I’ve manage to book XXX-HND//KIX-YYY (that’s an unflown land segment) using multi city...
before or after Intra-Asia stopover is gone?
Feb 4, 20, 12:03 pm
#38
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 15
I'm doing HKG-NRT, 7 day stopover, KIX-LAX-SJC-SEA in J and F which I booked a few weeks ago.
Feb 5, 20, 10:06 am
#39
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 101
Originally Posted by TravelingZoomer
Updates: Successfully changed JAL J to F for a flight in the upcoming week, for no change fee +10k miles (same flight, just different cabin) Originally had two F flights for the mom and pops, now their son can join them in in the front of the cabin.
Feb 5, 20, 10:08 am
#40
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 101
Is there a rule of thumb as far as how many seats JAL opens to AS in J when AS shows availability or is it a total crapshoot? Looking to upgrade a couple Y tickets to J (AS currently shows availability), but I'm currently waiting on some Bonvoy points to transfer over to AS to complete the upgrade and wondering what my odds are that the J seats will get snatched before then. JAL shows a healthy amount of cash fare availability in the cabin for the same flight FWIW.
Feb 5, 20, 10:14 am
#41
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS
Posts: 15,027
Originally Posted by jomama341
Is there a rule of thumb as far as how many seats JAL opens to AS in J when AS shows availability or is it a total crapshoot? Looking to upgrade a couple Y tickets to J (AS currently shows availability), but I'm currently waiting on some Bonvoy points to transfer over to AS to complete the upgrade and wondering what my odds are that the J seats will get snatched before then. JAL shows a healthy amount of cash fare availability in the cabin for the same flight FWIW.
Feb 5, 20, 10:50 am
#42
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: OneSky Alliance Elite+ with Zirconium and oak leaf cluster, Braniff Unobtainium
Posts: 19,892
Originally Posted by freed0m
Intra-Asia or XXX or YYY is North America?
before or after Intra-Asia stopover is gone?
before or after Intra-Asia stopover is gone?
Feb 5, 20, 10:52 am
#43
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: OneSky Alliance Elite+ with Zirconium and oak leaf cluster, Braniff Unobtainium
Posts: 19,892
Originally Posted by jomama341
Is there a rule of thumb as far as how many seats JAL opens to AS in J when AS shows availability or is it a total crapshoot? Looking to upgrade a couple Y tickets to J (AS currently shows availability), but I'm currently waiting on some Bonvoy points to transfer over to AS to complete the upgrade and wondering what my odds are that the J seats will get snatched before then. JAL shows a healthy amount of cash fare availability in the cabin for the same flight FWIW.
Feb 5, 20, 6:13 pm
#44
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SAN, BOS
Programs: AS MVPG100K, BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Plat,
Posts: 2,010
Originally Posted by jomama341
How were you able to do this without incurring a change fee? I'm looking to upgrade a couple Y tickets to J and they said it would cost $125 per ticket.
Feb 5, 20, 6:18 pm
#45
Join Date: Sep 2018
Programs: Alaska
Posts: 2,113
Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
In this case, North America-Japan-Asia. So I get a stopover.
certain rules can be broken.
