No Saver Awards, upgrade space, or discount coach in all markets after 5/21
Dec 23, 2019, 7:15 am
#1
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No Saver Awards, upgrade space, or discount coach in all markets after 5/21
Looks like in the schedule update this weekend they set all inventory to have no A, U, W, or discount coach below Q. This appears to be all markets, all flights starting 5/21 to the end of schedule. They all look like this:
F7 D7 P7 I0 U0 A0 Y7 Z7 S7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 L0 V0 K0 G0 T0 R0 X7 N7 W0 E0
Whether it's a Sunday evening or some random Tuesday in October, every flight seems to be loaded the same. The most desirable and least desirable flights and times, same price.
I'm hoping this in an error and it's corrected at some point.
In the meantime if they're a market where Q space is tough to get, it's likely open at the moment.
F7 D7 P7 I0 U0 A0 Y7 Z7 S7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 L0 V0 K0 G0 T0 R0 X7 N7 W0 E0
Whether it's a Sunday evening or some random Tuesday in October, every flight seems to be loaded the same. The most desirable and least desirable flights and times, same price.
I'm hoping this in an error and it's corrected at some point.
In the meantime if they're a market where Q space is tough to get, it's likely open at the moment.
Dec 23, 2019, 8:04 am
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is that really atypical? holidays mean they probably have fewer RM forecasters/analysts working, and the next couple updates will see the lower fares trickle into inventory
Dec 23, 2019, 8:47 am
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Dec 23, 2019, 10:24 am
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Yeah, this was mentioned in the last quarterly earnings call I believe. But they aren’t yet. You might be on to something that they will let Ticket-Skynet take over the rev buckets sometime early next year.
Dec 23, 2019, 10:48 am
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I noticed it yesterday as well. I was trying to tack a domestic AS segment onto an international partner award that I was booking. I checked every city pair on every single date right up to the end of the schedule in Nov. 2020 and nada. Not one single AS award segment in saver. To anywhere. I thought I was doing something wrong but it seems not. Hopefully I can add it on later.
Dec 23, 2019, 2:02 pm
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I would assume that it will not be fixed and that you're stuck with expiring GGUs that will expire. Tomorrow is Christmas eve - staffing levels across Alaska are going to be stretched thin as many people are traveling for the holidays, as Alaska continues to recover from a major baggage disruption in SEA this weekend, and as staff take time off to spend the holidays with families. Making sure you're able to use remaining GGUs in the last week of the year is pretty low on their priority list. You may get an agent to feel sympathetic and extend one or two, but I wouldn't count on it. Good lesson that if you see U availability, you should jump on it ASAP, as it's possible to disappear from others upgrading or an unforeseen issue like this happening within minutes, hours, or a few days.
Dec 23, 2019, 2:07 pm
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I would assume that it will not be fixed and that you're stuck with expiring GGUs that will expire. Tomorrow is Christmas eve - staffing levels across Alaska are going to be stretched thin as many people are traveling for the holidays, as Alaska continues to recover from a major baggage disruption in SEA this weekend, and as staff take time off to spend the holidays with families.
Dec 23, 2019, 5:19 pm
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Looks like in the schedule update this weekend they set all inventory to have no A, U, W, or discount coach below Q. This appears to be all markets, all flights starting 5/21 to the end of schedule. They all look like this:
F7 D7 P7 I0 U0 A0 Y7 Z7 S7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 L0 V0 K0 G0 T0 R0 X7 N7 W0 E0
Whether it's a Sunday evening or some random Tuesday in October, every flight seems to be loaded the same. The most desirable and least desirable flights and times, same price.
I'm hoping this in an error and it's corrected at some point.
So this is why all of a sudden I can't book my HNL-SAN flight for under $750+ RT for 06/01 to 06/10 and just a couple weeks ago I seats were abundantly available (didn't have the "only X seats left" warning) for about $400 RT. I did the Preview Seats trick and it looks as empty as it did before. I am guessing this is a temporary thing then? Please tell me it is!
In the meantime if they're a market where Q space is tough to get, it's likely open at the moment
F7 D7 P7 I0 U0 A0 Y7 Z7 S7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 L0 V0 K0 G0 T0 R0 X7 N7 W0 E0
Whether it's a Sunday evening or some random Tuesday in October, every flight seems to be loaded the same. The most desirable and least desirable flights and times, same price.
I'm hoping this in an error and it's corrected at some point.
So this is why all of a sudden I can't book my HNL-SAN flight for under $750+ RT for 06/01 to 06/10 and just a couple weeks ago I seats were abundantly available (didn't have the "only X seats left" warning) for about $400 RT. I did the Preview Seats trick and it looks as empty as it did before. I am guessing this is a temporary thing then? Please tell me it is!
In the meantime if they're a market where Q space is tough to get, it's likely open at the moment
