Alaska Nickel-and-Dimes on Finnair (AY) Flights
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Alaska Nickel-and-Dimes on Finnair (AY) Flights
Just heads up, for the first time ever (in my case) Alaska refused to credit my Finnair flight operated by a subsidiary (Nora). Not a big deal, I know, but awfully inconsistent with past practices (I had those flights credited all the time). In fact, my companion on the same flight (and itinerary) got credit, and I have to argue with a rep. To no avail.
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Just heads up, for the first time ever (in my case) Alaska refused to credit my Finnair flight operated by a subsidiary (Nora). Not a big deal, I know, but awfully inconsistent with past practices (I had those flights credited all the time). In fact, my companion on the same flight (and itinerary) got credit, and I have to argue with a rep. To no avail.
I flew LED-HEL on Norra three weeks ago and received credit....
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#4
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This isn't "nickel and dimes"
This has been very well stated across the forum, the exception is not the rule.
See differing language from AS marketed but not operated flights:
Flights must fall within the eligible flight number range below, and your flight must be marketed and operated by Finnair.
See differing language from AS marketed but not operated flights:
To qualify, flights must be in the range of eligible flight numbers listed above, and must be marketed and operated by Alaska Airlines, or marketed by Alaska Airlines and operated by the airlines noted above.
#5
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Agree. Not nickel and dime-ing for them to follow the long-established program rules they've had clearly posted. You got lucky in the past with some errors on their part, just as I'm sure we all have in one way or another. I do agree it's strange that your travel companion got credit and was on the same flight/reservation and you didn't. I'd more expect AS to claw back their miles than to give you credit out of policy, but maybe you'll find another rep willing to make an exception and give you the miles. Hopefully it's not too many (imagine not as Nora is probably a regional/smaller operation), and now you know for the future that operating/marketing carriers are important (particularly when subsidiaries are involved).
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1) It was not luck. Crediting Nora flights was not a mistake that happened to just few people. It has been actually a long established practice by Alaska to credit those flights. Well, since Alaska partnered with Finnair. That's because...
2) Nora is a Finnair operation. Nora works exclusively for Finnair. In fact, Nora planes don't even say Nora. They have Finnair livery. It is like Delta and Delta Shuttle. AA and Eagle.
3) Nora flights are marketed only as Finnair flights and have only AY (Finnair) flight numbers.
4) The flight numbers in question fall into the range specified on Alaska site. The range is 1-2000. The flight was 700 something.
So, no, it is not luck. It is either a bad rep who handled the case or, worse, Alaska's whimsical accrual practice. I would not even call it a policy. It is just... whatever rep feels.
Last edited by a7m; Aug 12, 2019 at 6:31 pm
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BA also flies within South Africa, the flight numbers are BA and the livery is BA but operated by Com Air (in smaller font) with 4 digit flight numbers 6xxx. Those too are eligible flight numbers for BA flights and have posted automatically for me without issue with 500 minimum EQM. Return flights between JNB-CPT can be had for around USD $130 including baggage, a hot meal in Y and complimentary beer & wine.
James
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Just heads up, for the first time ever (in my case) Alaska refused to credit my Finnair flight operated by a subsidiary (Nora). Not a big deal, I know, but awfully inconsistent with past practices (I had those flights credited all the time). In fact, my companion on the same flight (and itinerary) got credit, and I have to argue with a rep. To no avail.
Barring that, I would freehand an email requesting credit, attach a scan of your boarding pass and email to [email protected].
James
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Back before AA earnings were gutted, I had an AA Eagle flight not get credited. I emailed and got a similar reply saying that because the flight was “operated by Republic” I couldn’t get credit. It went back and forth several times with different people insisting that despite the flight being an AS codeshare and falling in the acceptable AA flight number range, it couldn’t be credited. I ended up calling and told the agent who laughed and credited the flight in about a minute.
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Resurrecting an old thread but seems the nickel and diming continues even post OneWorld.
I have an upcoming ticket SEA-HEL-SIN-SYD all coded as Finnair but with the final leg on British Airways. I figured I'd credit to Alaska as my Qantas OW status is locked in and I'd registered for the promo giving double miles on Finnair's new flights out of SEA.
Despite the added paragraph saying Finnair codeshares operated by other OneWorld carriers are eligible for credit, the eligible flight numbers then listed on Finnair's page on Alaska's website don't allow for any such OneWorld codeshares. 🙄
Sadly this appears to still be commonplace across many of AS's OneWorld partners, well over a year into membership. Qantas it is, then. 😑
I have an upcoming ticket SEA-HEL-SIN-SYD all coded as Finnair but with the final leg on British Airways. I figured I'd credit to Alaska as my Qantas OW status is locked in and I'd registered for the promo giving double miles on Finnair's new flights out of SEA.
Despite the added paragraph saying Finnair codeshares operated by other OneWorld carriers are eligible for credit, the eligible flight numbers then listed on Finnair's page on Alaska's website don't allow for any such OneWorld codeshares. 🙄
Sadly this appears to still be commonplace across many of AS's OneWorld partners, well over a year into membership. Qantas it is, then. 😑
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Resurrecting an old thread but seems the nickel and diming continues even post OneWorld.
I have an upcoming ticket SEA-HEL-SIN-SYD all coded as Finnair but with the final leg on British Airways. I figured I'd credit to Alaska as my Qantas OW status is locked in and I'd registered for the promo giving double miles on Finnair's new flights out of SEA.
Despite the added paragraph saying Finnair codeshares operated by other OneWorld carriers are eligible for credit, the eligible flight numbers then listed on Finnair's page on Alaska's website don't allow for any such OneWorld codeshares. 🙄
Sadly this appears to still be commonplace across many of AS's OneWorld partners, well over a year into membership. Qantas it is, then. 😑
I have an upcoming ticket SEA-HEL-SIN-SYD all coded as Finnair but with the final leg on British Airways. I figured I'd credit to Alaska as my Qantas OW status is locked in and I'd registered for the promo giving double miles on Finnair's new flights out of SEA.
Despite the added paragraph saying Finnair codeshares operated by other OneWorld carriers are eligible for credit, the eligible flight numbers then listed on Finnair's page on Alaska's website don't allow for any such OneWorld codeshares. 🙄
Sadly this appears to still be commonplace across many of AS's OneWorld partners, well over a year into membership. Qantas it is, then. 😑
#15
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Agents usually allow oneworld codeshares - I've got an agent to manually credit a BA-marketed and AA-operated SFO-DFW for example. Flight number was BA5510 (AA2798) in Y fare and the AS agent ended up crediting it as an Alaska-marketed and operated flight (counting towards MVP/MVPG minimum), despite that BA flight number not being in the eligible range. Interestingly this earned 100% RDM and 175% EQM - no clue why but not complaining.
AS really should update their partners to reflect their alleged commitment to OneWorld and standard practice across other carriers in the alliance.